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Programming Forum and web based access to our favorite programming groups.Hi there, I am new to this group and XP (just a few months) so please forgive me if my questions are amateur-ish. I am mainly a PHP developer and am trying to incorporate XP practices into my work so I can have more order in my life and become more productive. I also love the ideas of XP. However, I seem to spend 97% of my time reading about XP and design principals such as N-tier, MVC etc.. and so have become less productive, but I suppose I need to take one step back to go two steps forward. At present I am using the MVC design pattern for my projects. I started out with User Story cards and tried to write Unit Tests and program code directly from there. I have no problem writing tests for Models but can't seem to get my head around testing controllers. Could anyone enlighten me in this area? Also, I've decided to flesh out my design again using CRC cards. With MVC I typically have a Model, View and Controller for every table in the database. So in an on-line shopping system I have, for example, a table for stock and a table for sales. The first CRC card I wrote was for 'Stock' (mainly because this is the part of the project I am at now). The responsibilities are along the lines of 'setPrice', 'getStockLevels', 'incrementStock', etc... Then I went to think of a list of collaborators and the first one that came to mind was a 'Checkout'. However, checkout is already an *action* in my Sales controller. My 'Basket' has a controller of it's own and it seems to make sense that a 'Stock' object would collaborate with a 'Basket' object. It isn't too intuitive that a 'Stock' object would collaborate with 'Sale' over a 'Checkout' (or rather it seems more intuitive that a 'Stock' object would collaborate with 'Checkout' over a 'Sale'). Am I missing something here? I guess my question is, if using MVC (and therefore basing your objects on the database tables) does your list of tables represent the collaborators in the system? This may seem like a bit of a stupid question I know but I thought I might as well put it forward since the group is here. In the meantime I'll be going with this method until I hear more. Thank you for your time. Cheers, Psychie
Post Follow-up to this messagePsychie wrote: > At present I am using the MVC design pattern for my projects. This is not a particularily ringing endorsement for the sublime quality of USENET and its patrons, but... ...the best place to ask non-entry-level questions about XP is probably its mailing list ( extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com ). More people like to discuss XP there than like to deflect endless mindless trolling here. Go figure. -- Phlip [url]http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ZLand[/url] <-- NOT a blog!!!
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