Motorola Q Smartphone ?

Hi all,

Is there anyone there who can definitively confirm
that the motorola Q is using WM5 Smartphone edition
as some (non-Motorola) articles I've read say ?
Or is it rather WM5 PocketPC Phone edition ?

If it is the Smartphone edition:

1. Where's the equivalent Microsoft emulator for VS2005 ?

2. It's 320*240 - is this just "normal" landscape setting under WM5 ?
(is the functionality of this the same as in WM5 PPC ?
Do the OS user settings allow rotation ?)

2. Does the full QWERTY keyboard "keypad" section
return the same raw codes as the keyboard on
a normal Windows Smartphone edition device ?

Thanks in advance.

Dave (Parys Technografx)

It is running Smartphone rather than Pocket PC Phone Edition - no touch
screen.

1. There is no landscape emulator (as yet) so nothing which matches the
device directly (although there is a portrait QVGA emulator)

2. Previously Smartphone has not supported landscape and this will be AFAIK
the first device to support this orientation. I believe that unlike Pocket
PC there is no support for rotation - this is a fixed orientation for the
device.

3. Difficult to say without checking on the device because keyboard
implementations vary between OEMs.

Peter

--
Peter Foot
Windows Embedded MVP
www.peterfoot.net | www.inthehand.com

"dave" <dave@parystec.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> Is there anyone there who can definitively confirm
> that the motorola Q is using WM5 Smartphone edition
> as some (non-Motorola) articles I've read say ?
> Or is it rather WM5 PocketPC Phone edition ?
>
> If it is the Smartphone edition:
>
> 1. Where's the equivalent Microsoft emulator for VS2005 ?
>
> 2. It's 320*240 - is this just "normal" landscape setting under WM5 ?
> (is the functionality of this the same as in WM5 PPC ?
> Do the OS user settings allow rotation ?)
>
> 2. Does the full QWERTY keyboard "keypad" section
> return the same raw codes as the keyboard on
> a normal Windows Smartphone edition device ?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Dave (Parys Technografx)
>
>

Hi - apologies, I just found the previous thread
regarding WM5 Smartphone landscape mode and
I assume from that that the device is indeed using
WM5 Smartphone.

I'd still like an answer regarding the raw keycodes
for the keypad section of the QWERTY keyboard,
ie. do they match the codes from a "normal" Smartphone
keyboard ?
The answer dictates how urgently we need to start creating
a compatible version of our software and indeed if it
should be incorporated into the current Smartphone version
or done as a separate program.

"dave" <dave@parystec.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dqlhlp$igd$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
> Hi all,
>
> Is there anyone there who can definitively confirm
> that the motorola Q is using WM5 Smartphone edition
> as some (non-Motorola) articles I've read say ?
> Or is it rather WM5 PocketPC Phone edition ?
>
> If it is the Smartphone edition:
>
> 1. Where's the equivalent Microsoft emulator for VS2005 ?
>
> 2. It's 320*240 - is this just "normal" landscape setting under WM5 ?
> (is the functionality of this the same as in WM5 PPC ?
> Do the OS user settings allow rotation ?)
>
> 2. Does the full QWERTY keyboard "keypad" section
> return the same raw codes as the keyboard on
> a normal Windows Smartphone edition device ?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Dave (Parys Technografx)
>
>

Interesting, since in the past it was said to have a touch-screen.....

--
Helio Diamant
MS-MVP/Mobile Devices
www.pocketpcfreak.com

"dave" <dave@parystec.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi - apologies, I just found the previous thread
> regarding WM5 Smartphone landscape mode and
> I assume from that that the device is indeed using
> WM5 Smartphone.
>
> I'd still like an answer regarding the raw keycodes
> for the keypad section of the QWERTY keyboard,
> ie. do they match the codes from a "normal" Smartphone
> keyboard ?
> The answer dictates how urgently we need to start creating
> a compatible version of our software and indeed if it
> should be incorporated into the current Smartphone version
> or done as a separate program.
>
> "dave" <dave@parystec.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dqlhlp$igd$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk... 
>
>

In that case I'm not convinced it IS a Smartphone and not PPC,
can anyone respond to the question with a definite answer ?
Motorola's page on it doesn't mention a touchscreen - but
that could mean they're just afraid to mention it due to a
perceived public dislike of "chunky" PPCs :-)

"Helio Diamant - MS-MVP/Mobile Devices" <helio@nospam.pocketpcfreak.com>
wrote in message news:OzPUS5DHGHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Interesting, since in the past it was said to have a touch-screen.....
>
> --

Just in case anyone's wondering - the similar Treo 700w
is definately using WM5 PPC Phone as our PTvncWM5
apperently works on it fine :-)
We had more than one prospective beta-tester asking to
try the Smartphone version of our software on their Treo !!

"dave" <dave@parystec.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:...
> In that case I'm not convinced it IS a Smartphone and not PPC,
> can anyone respond to the question with a definite answer ?
> Motorola's page on it doesn't mention a touchscreen - but
> that could mean they're just afraid to mention it due to a
> perceived public dislike of "chunky" PPCs :-)
>
> "Helio Diamant - MS-MVP/Mobile Devices" <helio@nospam.pocketpcfreak.com>
> wrote in message news:OzPUS5DHGHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... 
>
>

Many thanks for clearing that up Peter - your reply appeared just
after I posted my second follow-up :-)

I think we'll be doing a specific version of our VNC software for this
format due to the considerable difference in keyboard method and
capabilities and the display being landscape, though I'll include
support for this Smartphone keyboard format at any resolution :-)

Any idea if/how many other similar devices are likely to appear ?

"Peter Foot [MVP]" <feedback@nospam-inthehand.com> wrote in message
news:u92rctDHGHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> It is running Smartphone rather than Pocket PC Phone Edition - no touch
> screen.
>
> 1. There is no landscape emulator (as yet) so nothing which matches the
> device directly (although there is a portrait QVGA emulator)
>
> 2. Previously Smartphone has not supported landscape and this will be
AFAIK
> the first device to support this orientation. I believe that unlike Pocket
> PC there is no support for rotation - this is a fixed orientation for the
> device.
>
> 3. Difficult to say without checking on the device because keyboard
> implementations vary between OEMs.
>
> Peter
>
> --
> Peter Foot
> Windows Embedded MVP
> www.peterfoot.net | www.inthehand.com
>
> "dave" <dave@parystec.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dqlhlp$igd$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk... 
>
>

I specifically asked one of the guys on the Microsoft Mobile team this
question back in November and they said it is a Smartphone and not a PPC.

--
Hal Berenson, President
PredictableIT, LLC
http://www.predictableit.com



"dave" <dave@parystec.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In that case I'm not convinced it IS a Smartphone and not PPC,
> can anyone respond to the question with a definite answer ?
> Motorola's page on it doesn't mention a touchscreen - but
> that could mean they're just afraid to mention it due to a
> perceived public dislike of "chunky" PPCs :-)
>
> "Helio Diamant - MS-MVP/Mobile Devices" <helio@nospam.pocketpcfreak.com>
> wrote in message news:OzPUS5DHGHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... 
>
>

Hi Halo,

THX.

Dave

"Hal Berenson" <hberenson@predictableit.com> wrote in message
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> I specifically asked one of the guys on the Microsoft Mobile team this
> question back in November and they said it is a Smartphone and not a PPC.
>
> --
> Hal Berenson, President
> PredictableIT, LLC
> http://www.predictableit.com
>
>
>
> "dave" <dave@parystec.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dqlt3c$rpt$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk... 
>
>