Re: religion

"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:52:11 -0500, "charles hottel"
> <jghottel@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>
> As opposed to which alternative?   That the universe always existed?
> That God started in the beginning?   That God always existed?
>
> I don't see that one of those four alternatives requires more faith
> than the others - or do you have an alternative that doesn't require
> faith?
>
> If they all require faith - pick the alternative with evidence.

I do not have another alternative. It is the "something from nothing"
(actually quite a lot from nothing) that I think requires great faith. In
our universe we have a law of the conservation of mass and energy. Of course
that law need not apply prior to the beginning of our universe.  Of course
for all we know there was no existence of time before our universe, so the
concept of "before"  or "prior" may not apply either. Because I live in this
universe I have never seen "something from nothing" occur so I am not
predisposed to readily accept it. Well all this is just so much speculation
and I for one would reserve judgment until more is known. We simply do not
know if anything came before the big bang and even if it did it seems likely
that the big bang destroyed any evidence of it. None of this will stop
humans from inquiring further into their origins and who know what we may
find out in the future.