Re: Iraq

But presumption of innocence until convicted in a court of law does not
apply in Guantanamo.

In article <1134239695.595850.127500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
Alistair <alistair@ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>But presumption of innocence until convicted in a court of law does not
>apply in Guantanamo.

It certainly seems that way, Mr Mclean, and those who have been called
'decent citizens' have said they consider it to be a blight and a stain
upon a good nation's escutcheon.

It has been suggested that if one expects perfection in matters in which
humans are involved one might be disappointed... but it seems that this
suggestion has not made it to some corners of the globe.

DD

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:29:04 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf@panix.com () wrote:

>In article <1134239695.595850.127500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
>Alistair <alistair@ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote: 
>
>It certainly seems that way, Mr Mclean, and those who have been called
>'decent citizens' have said they consider it to be a blight and a stain
>upon a good nation's escutcheon.

Getting rather tatty after the last 40 years of war crimes..

>
>It has been suggested that if one expects perfection in matters in which
>humans are involved one might be disappointed... but it seems that this
>suggestion has not made it to some corners of the globe.

Including to Mr Padilla's cell, old chicken..


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/FBIsuspect.html

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:29:04 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf@panix.com () wrote:

>In article <1134239695.595850.127500@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
>Alistair <alistair@ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote: 
>
>It certainly seems that way, Mr Mclean, and those who have been called
>'decent citizens' have said they consider it to be a blight and a stain
>upon a good nation's escutcheon.
>
>It has been suggested that if one expects perfection in matters in which
>humans are involved one might be disappointed... but it seems that this
>suggestion has not made it to some corners of the globe.

Such a jesuit you are old chicken!

You seem to forget that it is a *continuing* state of affairs.

I would suggest you refrain from infering to your constitution cause
you'll be joining Mr Padilla in the twilight zone.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/FBIsuspect.html

To quote from Chimp I:
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artm...icle_7779.shtml

He will probably become *Sir* Dubya for this.

Bwahaha!

Wily limeys, nay?

On 10 Dec 2005 11:03:52 -0800, "Alistair"
<alistair@ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>But presumption of innocence until convicted in a court of law does not
>apply in Guantanamo.

Apparently none of international law, the Constitution, U.S. law,
military code of justice, nor war laws apply if the big guy says they
don't and can back up his claim by force.

Which can be said about any rights, unless the little guys together
are willing and able to make the big guy change his mind.