For Jimmy:

Ivan Marsh wrote:
> http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT7096363910.html
>
> "Film Gimp is the most successful open source tool in feature motion
> picture work today. Programmers at many studios are helping development,
> including Rhythm & Hues, Sony Pictures Imageworks, and ILM. This is great
> cooperation in an industry that historically has been rather secretive."
>
> Gimp used in Scooby-Doo, Harry Potter and Stuart Little... with
> development being contributed to by Imageworks and ILM...
>
> Yep... looks like no one writes software of consequence for Linux.
>
> You don't consider a product used to re-touch and composite major films
> professional quality? What do you consider professional quality? MSPaint
> I'm guessing.
>

Took this from a Linux news group. "The Gimp" is one of the more popular
"you can get it free" pieces of software. Part of a similar discussion
(but much less civil) in an MS vs Linux flame war. The other package in
the intro-flame was Adobe PhotoShop.

Donald

Donald Tees wrote:
> Ivan Marsh wrote:
> 
>
>
> Took this from a Linux news group. "The Gimp" is one of the more popular
> "you can get it free" pieces of software. Part of a similar discussion
> (but much less civil) in an MS vs Linux flame war. The other package in
> the intro-flame was Adobe PhotoShop.
>
> Donald

And to your last quote MCM could well come in and suggest "It's the
artist, not the paintbrush" :-)

Thanks for the quote.

Just noticed you SOB you sent it to suse and corel - this topic will
NEVER end. Should the Corel boys get involved, that Corel thinggy which
died when the CEO left, the guy with the blond wife who was 'well
endowed' - any chance soon Linux will get front-ended with a
user-friendly, gently now - 'Windows' type display ?

I still groan thinking back to my one and only experience with MS Xenix,
many moons ago - real easy to use, like perhaps load a file and display
it - crap like :-

/t /r- v - x + y $$%# /g

Well you realize that's made up - except for the obliques - you guys go
'forwards' whereas Windows goes 'backwards'  "\" :-)

Jimmy

James J. Gavan wrote:
> Donald Tees wrote:
> 
>
>
> And to your last quote MCM could well come in and suggest "It's the
> artist, not the paintbrush" :-)
>
> Thanks for the quote.
>
> Just noticed you SOB you sent it to suse and corel - this topic will
> NEVER end. Should the Corel boys get involved, that Corel thinggy which
> died when the CEO left, the guy with the blond wife who was 'well
> endowed' - any chance soon Linux will get front-ended with a
> user-friendly, gently now - 'Windows' type display ?
>
> I still groan thinking back to my one and only experience with MS Xenix,
> many moons ago - real easy to use, like perhaps load a file and display
> it - crap like :-
>
> /t /r- v - x + y $$%# /g
>
> Well you realize that's made up - except for the obliques - you guys go
> 'forwards' whereas Windows goes 'backwards'  "\" :-)
>
> Jimmy

It's had one for years, Jimmy.  In fact it has several.

The machine I am writing on at the moment is a run of-the-mill PC with
376k. It has eight terminals, which I can get at through the function
keys. One is the operators console, where I can watch everything going
into the logs.(it runs my web page and gates the internet to my other
computers in the background, so logs are important) Seven terminals are
glass terminals, 90 line by 170 chacracter screens(or something in that
range). I can log into each, and run a completely different system on
each, even as a different user.

One runs the equivalent of a windows machine, with a better gui, and a
pile of good software. If I hang the GUI, I can hit alt-f1, log in, kill
it, then hit alt-f7 and restart the gui.  The only time I have done that
is when I was fiddling with a dual screen setup (twin monitors, single
desktop).

Think of a top level university mainframe of 15 years back, with a GUI
running as one of the jobs at a station. Not much different than the
mainframes you started with.

Donald

James J. Gavan wrote:
> Just noticed you SOB you sent it to suse and corel - this topic will
> NEVER end. Should the Corel boys get involved, that Corel thinggy which
> died when the CEO left, the guy with the blond wife who was 'well
> endowed' - any chance soon Linux will get front-ended with a
> user-friendly, gently now - 'Windows' type display ?

Jim, I am sorry about that. I just realized it also went out to about a
dozen Linux groups. My damned newsreader (firefox) only shows four, I
pasted in this news group over the top one and deleted the other three.
It appears ther were another twenty below it that I never saw.

If you think the Corel guys are bad, wait until you hear the
windows/linux warcries. The corel crowd are demure in comparison. I fear
we have inadverently started a major flame war on several fronts.

Donald

Donald Tees wrote:
> One runs the equivalent of a windows machine, with a better gui, and a
> pile of good software. If I hang the GUI, I can hit alt-f1, log in, kill
> it, then hit alt-f7 and restart the gui.  The only time I have done that
> is when I was fiddling with a dual screen setup (twin monitors, single
> desktop).

One trick I recently learned was Ctrl-Alt-Backspace - restarts X from
within X.  (Maybe I was the last Linux guy that didn't know that...)


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LX-i wrote:
> Donald Tees wrote:
> 
>
>
> One trick I recently learned was Ctrl-Alt-Backspace - restarts X from
> within X.  (Maybe I was the last Linux guy that didn't know that...)
>
>

Naw.  I'm gonna try it as soon as I exit from the news reader (which
should have been thunderbird, not firefox).

Donald
;< )

Donald Tees wrote:
> LX-i wrote:
> 
>
> Naw.  I'm gonna try it as soon as I exit from the news reader (which
> should have been thunderbird, not firefox).

See what you mean about those other addressees appearing. Taking what
you had inadvertently done, I scrolled down to the bottom and working
backwards deleted them by backspacing until I was left with
comp.lang.cobol. A tedious exercise though.

Which is which ? I've changed my desktop Icon names to read "Web
Browser/tab Firefox" and "E-Mail/tab Thunderbird". Even so, still have
difficulty remembering one from the other. Being a rocket scientist I
was very grateful when a guy fixing our sprinkler system said with
reference to nuts and bolts, "Lefty loosey, righty tighty". I can relate
to that :-)

Jimmy

On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 20:03:04 -0500, someone posing as Donald Tees took a
five minute break from flipping burgers to boot up the etch-a-sketch and
scribbled:

> Ivan Marsh wrote: 
>
> Took this from a Linux news group. "The Gimp" is one of the more popular
> "you can get it free" pieces of software. Part of a similar discussion
> (but much less civil) in an MS vs Linux flame war. The other package in
> the intro-flame was Adobe PhotoShop.
>
> Donald

Sounds 

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