Re: New England Agile Bazaar - Next Meeting September 15th

Dear Friends

Please pardon me for this long message.

I am new to this forum and very happy to note about the discussions on
Agile methodology (culture), but being in India & financially can not
participate in person bit would like to be in loop, because:

1) I have come to know Agile a bit nearer during ASCI-conference and I
like it

2) ASCI is Agile Software Community of India and beleve in spreading
message of Agile in Sw-development companies in India

3) I like Agile because it gives hope to make processes slimmer but
still find that even while being Agile one needs to be disciplined

4) I am Qality System consultant for IT industry and fighting the
battle that CMMI/ISO and Agile can co-exist.

Please keep me updated on the cativities of 'New England Agile Bazar'
and would be happy to learn more about Agile to introduce the same to
my customer organization.

I do have limitation that I am not a  SW-person and at 62 it is quite
late, but often participate in discussions with project managers during
my consulting assignments and in PMPClub meetings.

For 4 years I was running single man Project Office in a SW-company
undertaking Sr. Management Reviews of SW-projects and unearthing
problems/issues and getting these resolved through different functions
of the company including process-engineering group to help them
optimizing the procedures and making the same user friendly

Regards Goyal

Goyal wrote:

> 3) I like Agile because it gives hope to make processes slimmer but
> still find that even while being Agile one needs to be disciplined

Agile is _more_ disciplined. We use lots of little "rules" that are easy to
follow. Brand X uses lots of big rules that are easy to misinterpret. That
makes their kind of discipline harder.

> 4) I am Qality System consultant for IT industry and fighting the
> battle that CMMI/ISO and Agile can co-exist.

Lose immediately. Then push for the most disciplined possible CMM:

- all code must have unit tests
- all features must have acceptance tests
- all tests must pass before check-in
- new tests must be easy to write
- programmers must pair on anything important
- programmers much check in as soon as possible
- programmers must write new tests instead of use the debugger

_That_ is discipline. Not the limp wishy-washy CMM dogma that passes for
discipline ("every feature must have paperwork!").

--
Phlip
[url]http://www.greencheese.org/ZLand[/url]  <-- NOT a blog!!!