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("Tom Ross, Software Engineer, IBM Tom Ross is a senior software engineer in
COBOL development. Tom has spent his entire 18-year IBM career in COBOL
development, working on the compiler and run-time libraries for every
release of VS COBOL II, COBOL for OS/390 and VM, and IBM COBOL on AIX,
Windows and OS/2. He is an expert in migration issues for COBOL and Language
Environment for MVS and VM, and in Year 2000 issues facing IBM mainframe
customers.").
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> I've heard rumblings about CICS being made available on Linux for zSeries.
Does IBM have any plans on releasing a COBOL compiler and runtime for Linux
for zSeries? If so, which (if any) current IBM COBOL compiler might it be
"based" on (IBM Enterprise COBOL for z/OS, IBM COBOL for AIX, or perhaps
something else)? If not, then what compilers might CICS for Linux support?
This question posed on 26 August 2005
IBM is exploring the idea of shipping a COBOL compiler for z/Linux, but we
have no firm plans. We have accepted a formal requirement for a COBOL
compiler in Linux. We don't know yet which compiler we would base the
support on, or which parts of what compilers we might combine. The IBM COBOL
compilers on Windows, AIX, and z/OS use the same front end, and since the
z/OS back end generates z/Series instructions, it makes sense to use that
back end, but who knows at this point? I do not know about CICS plans for
z/Linux, nor what COBOL compilers they would support on z/Linux.
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Well, at least he didn't say "no"!
Frank
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Frank Swarbrick
Senior Developer/Analyst - Mainframe Applications
FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO USA
Post Follow-up to this messageJust for your "amusement". As far as SHARE requirements go, IBM *has* *ACCEPTED* the requirement for a COBOL compiler under Linux. HOWEVER, they have only responded with "RECOGNIZE" for the requirement for L E on Linux. *** The (official) definition of these two responses are: "AC - Accepted IBM agrees with the request and a solution is desirable and feasible. IBM intends to provide a solution. However, IBM's plans may change, and no commitment is made that a solution will be provided. This response will be tracked and updated." "RC - Recognized IBM agrees with the request and a solution appears to be a desirable objecti ve. A solution, however, may not presently appear feasible or implementable. No IBM commitment is made or implied as to the eventual delivery of an acceptable solution." *** If either of these requirements are of PARTICULAR interest to your shop (and you can provide IBM with additional "cost-justification" for developing them) pl ease contact your current IBM Marketting "source" and ask that they submit a "REQUEST" (or whatever IBM is calling it this w) and in this, they refere nce (as appropriate): SSLNGC0413604 Support for LE (Setup and) User Callable Services on Linux and/or SSLINUX04000 Linux support for COBOL programs P.S. Frank and anyone else from a VSE environment, you might also want to submit requirements via WAVV for these. -- Bill Klein wmklein <at> ix.netcom.com "Frank Swarbrick" <Frank.Swarbrick@efirstbank.com> wrote in message news:3np280F2km3kU1@individual.net... > Here's a question I submitted and the answer from Tom Ross of IBM > ("Tom Ross, Software Engineer, IBM Tom Ross is a senior software engineer in > COBOL development. Tom has spent his entire 18-year IBM career in COBOL > development, working on the compiler and run-time libraries for every > release of VS COBOL II, COBOL for OS/390 and VM, and IBM COBOL on AIX, > Windows and OS/2. He is an expert in migration issues for COBOL and Langua ge > Environment for MVS and VM, and in Year 2000 issues facing IBM mainframe > customers."). > > --------------- > [url]http://search390.techtarget.com/ateQuestionNResponse/0,289625,sid10_gci11210[/ur l] > 68_tax285603,00.html > > Does IBM have any plans on releasing a COBOL compiler and runtime for Linu x > for zSeries? If so, which (if any) current IBM COBOL compiler might it be > "based" on (IBM Enterprise COBOL for z/OS, IBM COBOL for AIX, or perhaps > something else)? If not, then what compilers might CICS for Linux support? > > This question posed on 26 August 2005 > > > IBM is exploring the idea of shipping a COBOL compiler for z/Linux, but we > have no firm plans. We have accepted a formal requirement for a COBOL > compiler in Linux. We don't know yet which compiler we would base the > support on, or which parts of what compilers we might combine. The IBM COB OL > compilers on Windows, AIX, and z/OS use the same front end, and since the > z/OS back end generates z/Series instructions, it makes sense to use that > back end, but who knows at this point? I do not know about CICS plans for > z/Linux, nor what COBOL compilers they would support on z/Linux. > --------------- > > Well, at least he didn't say "no"! > > Frank > > > > > > --- > Frank Swarbrick > Senior Developer/Analyst - Mainframe Applications > FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO USA
Post Follow-up to this messageThanks for your input, Bill. I will pass it on. I seem to be under the possible delusion that we can possibly move our business applications from VSE to Linux for zSeries someday without it being a *huge* effort. As I say, I may just be delusional! :-) Frank Just for your "amusement". As far as SHARE requirements go, IBM *has* *ACCEPTED* the requirement for a COBOL compiler under Linux. HOWEVER, they have only responded with "RECOGNIZE" for the requirement for LE on Linux. *** The (official) definition of these two responses are: "AC - Accepted IBM agrees with the request and a solution is desirable and feasible. IBM intends to provide a solution. However, IBM's plans may change, and no commitment is made that a solution will be provided. This response will be tracked and updated." "RC - Recognized IBM agrees with the request and a solution appears to be a desirable objective. A solution, however, may not presently appear feasible or implementable. No IBM commitment is made or implied as to the eventual delivery of an acceptable solution." *** If either of these requirements are of PARTICULAR interest to your shop (and you can provide IBM with additional "cost-justification" for developing them) please contact your current IBM Marketting "source" and ask that they submit a "REQUEST" (or whatever IBM is calling it this w) and in this, they reference (as appropriate): SSLNGC0413604 Support for LE (Setup and) User Callable Services on Linux and/or SSLINUX04000 Linux support for COBOL programs P.S. Frank and anyone else from a VSE environment, you might also want to submit requirements via WAVV for these. -- Bill Klein wmklein <at> ix.netcom.com "Frank Swarbrick" <Frank.Swarbrick@efirstbank.com> wrote in message news:3np280F2km3kU1@individual.net... > Here's a question I submitted and the answer from Tom Ross of IBM > ("Tom Ross, Software Engineer, IBM Tom Ross is a senior software engineer in > COBOL development. Tom has spent his entire 18-year IBM career in COBOL > development, working on the compiler and run-time libraries for every > release of VS COBOL II, COBOL for OS/390 and VM, and IBM COBOL on AIX, > Windows and OS/2. He is an expert in migration issues for COBOL and Language > Environment for MVS and VM, and in Year 2000 issues facing IBM mainframe > customers."). > > --------------- > http://search390.techtarget.com/ate...,sid10_gci11210 > 68_tax285603,00.html > zSeries. > Does IBM have any plans on releasing a COBOL compiler and runtime for Linux > for zSeries? If so, which (if any) current IBM COBOL compiler might it be > "based" on (IBM Enterprise COBOL for z/OS, IBM COBOL for AIX, or perhaps > something else)? If not, then what compilers might CICS for Linux support? > > This question posed on 26 August 2005 > > > IBM is exploring the idea of shipping a COBOL compiler for z/Linux, but we > have no firm plans. We have accepted a formal requirement for a COBOL > compiler in Linux. We don't know yet which compiler we would base the > support on, or which parts of what compilers we might combine. The IBM COBOL > compilers on Windows, AIX, and z/OS use the same front end, and since the > z/OS back end generates z/Series instructions, it makes sense to use that > back end, but who knows at this point? I do not know about CICS plans for > z/Linux, nor what COBOL compilers they would support on z/Linux. > --------------- > > Well, at least he didn't say "no"! > > Frank > > > > > > --- > Frank Swarbrick > Senior Developer/Analyst - Mainframe Applications > FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO USA
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