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COBOL compiler for zLinux
Here's a question I submitted and the answer from Tom Ross of IBM
("Tom Ross, Software Engineer, IBM Tom Ross is a senior software engineer in
COBOL development. Tom has spent his entire 18-year IBM career in COBOL
development, working on the compiler and run-time libraries for every
release of VS COBOL II, COBOL for OS/390 and VM, and IBM COBOL on AIX,
Windows and OS/2. He is an expert in migration issues for COBOL and Language
Environment for MVS and VM, and in Year 2000 issues facing IBM mainframe
customers.").

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> I've heard rumblings about CICS being made available on Linux for zSeries.
Does IBM have any plans on releasing a COBOL compiler and runtime for Linux
for zSeries? If so, which (if any) current IBM COBOL compiler might it be
"based" on (IBM Enterprise COBOL for z/OS, IBM COBOL for AIX, or perhaps
something else)? If not, then what compilers might CICS for Linux support?

This question posed on 26 August 2005


IBM is exploring the idea of shipping a COBOL compiler for z/Linux, but we
have no firm plans. We have accepted a formal requirement for a COBOL
compiler in Linux. We don't know yet which compiler we would base the
support on, or which parts of what compilers we might combine. The IBM COBOL
compilers on Windows, AIX, and z/OS use the same front end, and since the
z/OS back end generates z/Series instructions, it makes sense to use that
back end, but who knows at this point? I do not know about CICS plans for
z/Linux, nor what COBOL compilers they would support on z/Linux.
---------------

Well, at least he didn't say "no"!

Frank





---
Frank Swarbrick
Senior Developer/Analyst - Mainframe Applications
FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO  USA

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Frank Swarbrick
09-01-05 11:55 PM


Re: COBOL compiler for zLinux
Just for your "amusement".

As far as SHARE requirements go,

IBM *has* *ACCEPTED* the requirement for a COBOL compiler under Linux.

HOWEVER, they have only responded with "RECOGNIZE" for the requirement for L
E on
Linux.

***

The (official) definition of these two responses are:

"AC  - Accepted
IBM agrees with the request and a solution is desirable and feasible.  IBM
intends to provide a solution.  However, IBM's plans may change, and no
commitment is made that a solution will be provided.  This response will be
tracked and updated."

"RC - Recognized
IBM agrees with the request and a solution appears to be a desirable objecti
ve.
A solution, however, may not presently appear feasible or implementable.  No
 IBM
commitment is made  or implied as  to the eventual delivery of an acceptable
solution."

***

If either of these requirements are of PARTICULAR interest to your shop (and
 you
can provide IBM with additional "cost-justification" for developing them) pl
ease
contact your current IBM Marketting "source" and ask that they submit a
"REQUEST" (or whatever IBM is calling it this w) and in this, they refere
nce
(as appropriate):

SSLNGC0413604 Support for LE (Setup and) User Callable Services on Linux

and/or

SSLINUX04000 Linux support for COBOL programs

P.S.  Frank and anyone else from a VSE environment, you might also want to
submit requirements via WAVV for these.


--
Bill Klein
wmklein <at> ix.netcom.com
"Frank Swarbrick" <Frank.Swarbrick@efirstbank.com> wrote in message
news:3np280F2km3kU1@individual.net...
> Here's a question I submitted and the answer from Tom Ross of IBM
> ("Tom Ross, Software Engineer, IBM Tom Ross is a senior software engineer 
in
> COBOL development. Tom has spent his entire 18-year IBM career in COBOL
> development, working on the compiler and run-time libraries for every
> release of VS COBOL II, COBOL for OS/390 and VM, and IBM COBOL on AIX,
> Windows and OS/2. He is an expert in migration issues for COBOL and Langua
ge
> Environment for MVS and VM, and in Year 2000 issues facing IBM mainframe
> customers.").
>
> ---------------
> [url]http://search390.techtarget.com/ateQuestionNResponse/0,289625,sid10_gci11210[/ur
l]
> 68_tax285603,00.html
> 
> Does IBM have any plans on releasing a COBOL compiler and runtime for Linu
x
> for zSeries? If so, which (if any) current IBM COBOL compiler might it be
> "based" on (IBM Enterprise COBOL for z/OS, IBM COBOL for AIX, or perhaps
> something else)? If not, then what compilers might CICS for Linux support?
>
> This question posed on 26 August 2005
>
>
> IBM is exploring the idea of shipping a COBOL compiler for z/Linux, but we
> have no firm plans. We have accepted a formal requirement for a COBOL
> compiler in Linux. We don't know yet which compiler we would base the
> support on, or which parts of what compilers we might combine. The IBM COB
OL
> compilers on Windows, AIX, and z/OS use the same front end, and since the
> z/OS back end generates z/Series instructions, it makes sense to use that
> back end, but who knows at this point? I do not know about CICS plans for
> z/Linux, nor what COBOL compilers they would support on z/Linux.
> ---------------
>
> Well, at least he didn't say "no"!
>
> Frank
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Frank Swarbrick
> Senior Developer/Analyst - Mainframe Applications
> FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO  USA



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William M. Klein
09-01-05 11:55 PM


Re: COBOL compiler for zLinux
Thanks for your input, Bill.  I will pass it on.

I seem to be under the possible delusion that we can possibly move our
business applications from VSE to Linux for zSeries someday without it being
a *huge* effort.  As I say, I may just be delusional!

:-)

Frank
 
Just for your "amusement".

As far as SHARE requirements go,

IBM *has* *ACCEPTED* the requirement for a COBOL compiler under Linux.

HOWEVER, they have only responded with "RECOGNIZE" for the requirement for
LE on
Linux.

***

The (official) definition of these two responses are:

"AC  - Accepted
IBM agrees with the request and a solution is desirable and feasible.  IBM
intends to provide a solution.  However, IBM's plans may change, and no
commitment is made that a solution will be provided.  This response will be

tracked and updated."

"RC - Recognized
IBM agrees with the request and a solution appears to be a desirable
objective.
A solution, however, may not presently appear feasible or implementable.  No
IBM
commitment is made  or implied as  to the eventual delivery of an acceptable

solution."

***

If either of these requirements are of PARTICULAR interest to your shop (and
you
can provide IBM with additional "cost-justification" for developing them)
please
contact your current IBM Marketting "source" and ask that they submit a
"REQUEST" (or whatever IBM is calling it this w) and in this, they
reference
(as appropriate):

SSLNGC0413604 Support for LE (Setup and) User Callable Services on
Linux

and/or

SSLINUX04000 Linux support for COBOL programs

P.S.  Frank and anyone else from a VSE environment, you might also want to
submit requirements via WAVV for these.


--
Bill Klein
wmklein <at> ix.netcom.com
"Frank Swarbrick" <Frank.Swarbrick@efirstbank.com> wrote in message
news:3np280F2km3kU1@individual.net...
> Here's a question I submitted and the answer from Tom Ross of IBM
> ("Tom Ross, Software Engineer, IBM Tom Ross is a senior software engineer
in
> COBOL development. Tom has spent his entire 18-year IBM career in COBOL
> development, working on the compiler and run-time libraries for every
> release of VS COBOL II, COBOL for OS/390 and VM, and IBM COBOL on AIX,
> Windows and OS/2. He is an expert in migration issues for COBOL and
Language
> Environment for MVS and VM, and in Year 2000 issues facing IBM mainframe
> customers.").
>
> ---------------
>
http://search390.techtarget.com/ate...,sid10_gci11210

> 68_tax285603,00.html
> 
zSeries.
> Does IBM have any plans on releasing a COBOL compiler and runtime for
Linux
> for zSeries? If so, which (if any) current IBM COBOL compiler might it be
> "based" on (IBM Enterprise COBOL for z/OS, IBM COBOL for AIX, or perhaps
> something else)? If not, then what compilers might CICS for Linux
support?
>
> This question posed on 26 August 2005
>
>
> IBM is exploring the idea of shipping a COBOL compiler for z/Linux, but
we
> have no firm plans. We have accepted a formal requirement for a COBOL
> compiler in Linux. We don't know yet which compiler we would base the
> support on, or which parts of what compilers we might combine. The IBM
COBOL
> compilers on Windows, AIX, and z/OS use the same front end, and since the
> z/OS back end generates z/Series instructions, it makes sense to use that
> back end, but who knows at this point? I do not know about CICS plans for
> z/Linux, nor what COBOL compilers they would support on z/Linux.
> ---------------
>
> Well, at least he didn't say "no"!
>
> Frank
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Frank Swarbrick
> Senior Developer/Analyst - Mainframe Applications
> FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO  USA





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