Module submission Grid::GridPerls

The following module was proposed for inclusion in the Module List:

modid:       Grid::GridPerls
DSLIP:       bdphg
description: Set of Grid Services, run with GSI on Apache
userid:      AMERZKY (Andre Merzky)
chapterid:   15 (World_Wide_Web_HTML_HTTP_CGI)
communities:
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similar:
None

rationale:

Grid Computing is an emerging paradigm for distributed computing,
allowing to scale distributed systems over multiple administrative
domains (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grid_computing)

The modules to be added are based on SOAP::Lite, and provide some
simple Grid enabled services for development tests. The services can
run stand alone, or can be hosted via mod_perl on apache. The latter
approach allows to integrate Grid Security (GSI) via mod_gridsite.

GridPerls is just the name of the set of services we develop --
seemed catchy :-)

A new root namespace for Grids may seem overkill right now, but I
am confident that content in that area will grow rapidly. Also, I am
not sure where else to put them.

If 'Grid' seems a bad term (its semantically overloaded *sigh*),
GGF might be an option: the Global Grid Forum is the standardization
body for Grid protocols/services/APIs (see http://www.ggf.org/)

Please contact me on andre@merzky.net if you need more infos.

Also, if a new root namespace entry seems a bad idea, I would
welcome suggestions for module placement.

Thanks, Andre.

enteredby:   AMERZKY (Andre Merzky)
enteredon:   Thu May 26 21:45:57 2005 GMT

The resulting entry would be:

Grid::
::GridPerls       bdphg Set of Grid Services, run with GSI on apache AMERZKY


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>     The modules to be added are based on SOAP::Lite, and provide some
>     simple Grid enabled services for development tests. The services can
>     run stand alone, or can be hosted via mod_perl on apache. The latter
>     approach allows to integrate Grid Security (GSI) via mod_gridsite.
>
>     GridPerls is just the name of the set of services we develop --
>     seemed catchy :-)
>
>     A new root namespace for Grids may seem overkill right now, but I
>     am confident that content in that area will grow rapidly. Also, I am
>     not sure where else to put them.

A Grid:: root namespace does seem appropriate, and is probably the right
thing to do.

However, as a new module space, I'd like to see major component
available as it's own distro. Branded collections of functionality tend
to be not supported as well a encapsulated components of functionality.

The problem can be that people may want to use only some parts to built
things in directions you don't initially expect, and this can be hard if
they have to buy into your specific direction of thinking.

This has caused problems with modules like Workflow.pm, which is great
but requires you use Workflow's logging and data persistence mechanisms.

Would it be possibly to break out and isolate some of the major pieces,
and then provide something like a Bundle::Grid or Bundle::GridPerls for
people that want the entire collection?

Looking at the GGF website, you may well end up with either modules
named after particular services, or perhaps things like Grid::GFD48 to
implement particular concepts?

It looks like there's a hell of a lot of things that could be
implemented, so breaking them out should help you avoid dependency bloat
(having one big module that spans a lot of functionality and requires
the installation of half of CPAN :)

Adam K

>     If 'Grid' seems a bad term (its semantically overloaded *sigh*),
>     GGF might be an option: the Global Grid Forum is the standardization
>     body for Grid protocols/services/APIs (see http://www.ggf.org/)
>
>     Please contact me on andre@merzky.net if you need more infos.
>
>     Also, if a new root namespace entry seems a bad idea, I would
>     welcome suggestions for module placement.
>
>     Thanks, Andre.
>
>   enteredby:   AMERZKY (Andre Merzky)
>   enteredon:   Thu May 26 21:45:57 2005 GMT
>
> The resulting entry would be:
>
> Grid::
> ::GridPerls       bdphg Set of Grid Services, run with GSI on apache AMERZ
KY
>
>
> Thanks for registering,

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In article <200505262145.j4QLjwgl003225@pause.perl.org>, Perl Authors
Upload Server <upload@pause.perl.org> wrote:

> The following module was proposed for inclusion in the Module List:
>
>   modid:       Grid::GridPerls

>   description: Set of Grid Services, run with GSI on Apache

How about a Distributed::* namespace?  It sounds like you might
want to call this Distributed::GSI, or even Apache::GSI.

I won't repeat Adam Kennedy's remarks, but you'll want to think
about those too. :)

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Brian

I've had a long offline chat the Andre and found him a mentor (tsee) to
help him through this stuff.

It will still probably end up in Grid:: but instead of one giant
bioperl-like mess it will be going in as a number of much more managable
dists dealing with specific areas.

Adam

_brian_d_foy wrote:
> [[ This message was both posted and mailed: see
>    the "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]
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> In article <200505262145.j4QLjwgl003225@pause.perl.org>, Perl Authors
> Upload Server <upload@pause.perl.org> wrote:
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>
> 
>
>
> How about a Distributed::* namespace?  It sounds like you might
> want to call this Distributed::GSI, or even Apache::GSI.
>
> I won't repeat Adam Kennedy's remarks, but you'll want to think
> about those too. :)
>