Borland no longer part of Trolltech

I saw an article today that Borland no longer owns any part of Troll
Tech.  This was an integral part of Kylix.  Is this further evidence
Kylix is abandones?

Bill Smith wrote:
> I saw an article today that Borland no longer owns any part of Troll
> Tech.  This was an integral part of Kylix.  Is this further evidence
> Kylix is abandones?

Perhaps evidence that CLX is abandoned, rather than Kylix as such.

They are going to wxWindows...

"Rob McDonell" <arkangles@arkangles.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:4295b87d$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
> Bill Smith wrote: 
>
> Perhaps evidence that CLX is abandoned, rather than Kylix as such.

Max wrote:

> They are going to wxWindows...

What is your source?


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Regards,

Andreas Hausladen

> Max wrote:
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> What is your source?

His imagination.

Simon

Simon Kissel wrote:
>
> His imagination.
>
> Simon


Unfortunately our imaginations are all we have to go on. It sure would
be nice to hear some official word from Borland about the future
direction of Kylix.

delphi2006 will include C++ personality, perhaps a WXCL could start ?
as VCL alternative...

Max a écrit :
> They are going to wxWindows...
>
> "Rob McDonell" <arkangles@arkangles.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:4295b87d$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
> 
>
>
>

> Simon Kissel wrote: 
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>=20
> Unfortunately our imaginations are all we have to go on. It sure would =

> be nice to hear some official word from Borland about the future=20
> direction of Kylix.

Ok, here is some guidance:

Borland does not seem to have decided about Kylix' future yet. In this
recent poll they've asked if there would be interest in a new version:
http://infopoll.net/live/surveys/s27784.htm

Earlier Borland has said they are looking for some way to update Kylix
to make it compatible to recent distros.=20

CLX isn't included in Delphi 2005 anymore. The windows part of CLX can
be considered dead. It was of no use anyway, nobody wants to deploy=20
windows applications that depend on QT.

The FreeCLX project is planning to make CLX more compatible to the
Win32 VCL. So a possible future path is to have cross-platform =
applications
that use VCL on win32, and an updated CLX, probably based on QT3/4 on
Linux.

Indepedent from Borland there also is a lot of stuff going on regarding=20
Kylix' future. While there still are a lot of things that are unknown, =
one
thing is for sure now: The future for Kylix-build applications is =
secured,
no matter if Borland decides to continue the product or not.

Simon

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Simon Kissel wrote:
 
>
> Ok, here is some guidance:
>
> Borland does not seem to have decided about Kylix' future yet. In this
> recent poll they've asked if there would be interest in a new version:
> http://infopoll.net/live/surveys/s27784.htm

Yes, very bright. Asking the Windows crowd about whether they want a
new version of Kylix!

> Earlier Borland has said they are looking for some way to update Kylix
> to make it compatible to recent distros.

It's been a few months since anything was talk about and even that
smacked of unofficial. It seemed to be more a few individuals within
Borland trying to harness the OSS community.

[...]

> Indepedent from Borland there also is a lot of stuff going on
> regarding Kylix' future. While there still are a lot of things that
> are unknown, one thing is for sure now: The future for Kylix-build
> applications is secured, no matter if Borland decides to continue the
> product or not.

Oh come on Simon. NOTHING about Kylix is secured.


B

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Simon Kissel wrote:
>
> Borland does not seem to have decided about Kylix' future yet. In this
> recent poll they've asked if there would be interest in a new version:
> http://infopoll.net/live/surveys/s27784.htm

I did participate in that survey, and I hope enough people indicated an
interest in Kylix to keep Borland interested.

>
> Earlier Borland has said they are looking for some way to update Kylix
> to make it compatible to recent distros.
>

That would certainly be welcome, but it is not the only change that
needs to be made.

> CLX isn't included in Delphi 2005 anymore. The windows part of CLX can
> be considered dead. It was of no use anyway, nobody wants to deploy
> windows applications that depend on QT.
>
> The FreeCLX project is planning to make CLX more compatible to the
> Win32 VCL. So a possible future path is to have cross-platform application
s
> that use VCL on win32, and an updated CLX, probably based on QT3/4 on
> Linux.
>

This is indeed the crux of the problem. Without that compatibility
between the VCL and whatever Borland chooses to use for the UI in Kylix,
it's going nowhere. I appreciate the efforts of those involved in the
FreeCLX project, and I know you have done a tremendous amount of work
that has helped keep Kylix alive, but for it to matter in the long run
Borland is going to have to step up.


> Indepedent from Borland there also is a lot of stuff going on regarding
> Kylix' future. While there still are a lot of things that are unknown, one
> thing is for sure now: The future for Kylix-build applications is secured,
> no matter if Borland decides to continue the product or not.
>
> Simon


I use Kylix in house to make utility programs for use on our Linux
servers, but to use the current Kylix product to produce a commercial
desktop product would be more than a little bit scary.

If Borland wants some additional feedback on Kylix, perhaps they should
take a look at what happened to the price of Borland Stock when Kylix
was announce in Jan 2001, and where it is going now with their present
strategy. I know there are a lot of other factors involved in the price
of Borland stock, but I do believe one of the major reasons for the
higher prices in the recent past was the possibility of one code base
for Windows and Linux. I wish they would renew that original enthusiasm.