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Programming Forum and web based access to our favorite programming groups.Bit of background, as the XP advocate,I successfully managed to introduce XP onto my team within the company. We do all of the practices to one degree of success or another (on-site customer has never been possible, so we have gone with one-customer-voice where one or more company employees proxy for the many different real customers - but lets not delve on this aspect within this thread). However, I've just accepted a new job at a large multinational drug company, who are turning their entire software development process around to the agile/XP way - very exciting times! : -) So of course, this has got me thinking about what worked, what hampered, what surprises occurred during the introduction of XP into my current team, so that I could apply those or different techniques/tactics at my new job. For me, I think the biggest change in the teams dynamics occurred when we rearranged the furniture and had dedicated Pairing machines, with the same software, with the same configurations (desktops, Code formatters, etc). I saw that people tended to move around more and usually paired with different people more. However, I also realise now, that we left it too late. We'd been XPing for nearly a year before we got straight desks ( snipped long story about bureaucratic time wasting). By this time, some issues had formed which I 'think' may not have if we'd changed the working environment at the beginning. Issues included but not limited too: One person driving the keyboard most of the day, leaving their pair feeling more like an observer rather than an equal or leaving them just plain bored. Switching pairs made more awkward as each developers own PC was setup as they preferred it - and everyone has their own ideas about what is good here. The 'visiting' pair could feel like they were invading the others personal space, when they worked at their personal desk - nik naks, family pictures, phones etc. Resistance to change environment once straight tables finally arrived, even though they made working in pairs actually more ergonomic/easier. So I think, when I'm starting to help a company transition to working with XP, I'd push for changing the working environments physical layout as early as possible. What do you think? What have you seen? What have you done? Any info greatly appreciated. Regards Andrew
Post Follow-up to this messageAndrew McDonagh wrote: > Bit of background, as the XP advocate,I successfully managed to > introduce XP onto my team within the company. Dude, the number one success criteria is to have someone onsite who has already transitioned. > What do you think? > What have you seen? > What have you done? Try this: http://industrialxp.org/projectChartering.html It is pure cheerleading, plus "test-driven management", which is essentially away of incrementally testing the boss's compliance to Agility. -- Phlip [url]http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?ZLand[/url]
Post Follow-up to this messageOn Sat, 21 May 2005 00:01:19 +0100, Andrew McDonagh <news@andrewcdonagh.f2s.com> wrote: >So I think, when I'm starting to help a company transition to working >with XP, I'd push for changing the working environments physical layout >as early as possible. > >What do you think? >What have you seen? >What have you done? Mike Hill, one of the top transitioners in the universe, insists on a team making the space commitment as a prerequisite to his helping them. I think he might be right to do that. Regards, -- Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com I'm giving the best advice I have. You get to decide if it's true for you.
Post Follow-up to this messagePhlip wrote: > Andrew McDonagh wrote: > > > > > Dude, the number one success criteria is to have someone onsite who has > already transitioned. We'll be starting off in the right direction then, there's already another advocate there (just started last w). > > > > > Try this: > > http://industrialxp.org/projectChartering.html > > It is pure cheerleading, plus "test-driven management", which is essential ly > away of incrementally testing the boss's compliance to Agility. > oh yes IXP's TDM, cheers I'll re-read it. Andrew
Post Follow-up to this messageRon Jeffries wrote: > On Sat, 21 May 2005 00:01:19 +0100, Andrew McDonagh > <news@andrewcdonagh.f2s.com> wrote: > > > > > Mike Hill, one of the top transitioners in the universe, insists on a > team making the space commitment as a prerequisite to his helping > them. > > I think he might be right to do that. > > Regards, > Cheers for that Ron. Its good to know what I've perceived has been seen by others. Just looked at Mike's slide form XP2004 - very interesting! Some more Googling required I think... regards Andrew
Post Follow-up to this messageOn Sat, 21 May 2005 00:01:19 +0100, Andrew McDonagh <news@andrewcdonagh.f2s.com> wrote: >So I think, when I'm starting to help a company transition to working >with XP, I'd push for changing the working environments physical layout >as early as possible. Agreed. When we help companies transition, this is one of the first things we get them to do. Indeed, we've postponed transitions to wait for the open office to get set up. More than one customer has told us that the creation of the open office had a visibly positive effect on the team, even before the transition started. ----- Robert C. Martin (Uncle Bob) | email: unclebob@objectmentor.com Object Mentor Inc. | blog: www.butunclebob.com The Agile Transition Experts | web: www.objectmentor.com 800-338-6716 "The aim of science is not to open the door to infinite wisdom, but to set a limit to infinite error." -- Bertolt Brecht, Life of Galileo
Post Follow-up to this messageRobert C. Martin wrote: > On Sat, 21 May 2005 00:01:19 +0100, Andrew McDonagh > <news@andrewcdonagh.f2s.com> wrote: > > > > > Agreed. When we help companies transition, this is one of the first > things we get them to do. Indeed, we've postponed transitions to wait > for the open office to get set up. > > More than one customer has told us that the creation of the open > office had a visibly positive effect on the team, even before the > transition started. > > Cheers for this Bob.
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