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Win xp64
I have just performed a test on an AMD64 running win XP 64, none of the dos
programmes so far tested will not work, this includes clipper 5.2 and 5.3 as
well as clipper compiled exes and blinker.  Reading around it looks as
though xp64 does not support dos systems at all.  Anybody else had this
experience?

Mike Morrison



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Mike Morrison
05-13-05 08:55 PM


Re: Win xp64
On Fri, 13 May 2005 12:02:16 +0000 (UTC), "Mike Morrison"
<mikeNoSpam@rmor.co.uk> wrote:

>I have just performed a test on an AMD64 running win XP 64, none of the dos
>programmes so far tested will not work, this includes clipper 5.2 and 5.3 a
s
>well as clipper compiled exes and blinker.  Reading around it looks as
>though xp64 does not support dos systems at all.  Anybody else had this
>experience?
>
>Mike Morrison
>
>

Mike.

You said ..."none of the dos programmes so far tested will not work".
Double negative. Do you realise that means they all work? Is that what
you meant to say? I guess not.


Regards,

Ross McKenzie
ValuSoft
Melbourne Australia

valusoft AT optushome DOT com DOT au

So long ... and thanks for all the fish.

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Ross McKenzie
05-13-05 08:55 PM


Re: Win xp64
Well Mike,

WINXP 64Bit Version does not support any kind of 16Bit stuff

- no win3.1x stuff
- no 16Bit DLLs
- no pure DOS Programs

It supports all kind of 32Bit GUI and CONSOLE Windows programs.

That means:

Move your Clipper code to xHarbour as 32 or 64 Bit and be happy
for the next 10 years or more.

Special thanx to Ron, Patrick and the whole xHarbour and Harbour Team
for this great Compiler and Builder !!!

Markus



Am Fri, 13 May 2005 14:02:16 +0200 hat Mike Morrison
<mikeNoSpam@rmor.co.uk> geschrieben:

> I have just performed a test on an AMD64 running win XP 64, none of the
> dos
> programmes so far tested will not work, this includes clipper 5.2 and
> 5.3 as
> well as clipper compiled exes and blinker.  Reading around it looks as
> though xp64 does not support dos systems at all.  Anybody else had this
> experience?
>
> Mike Morrison
>
>



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Markus Wiederstein
05-13-05 08:55 PM


Re: Win xp64
Slip of the fingers, none work.

Mike Morrison
"Ross McKenzie" <NoJunk_valusoft@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:4284987e.4750781@news...
> On Fri, 13 May 2005 12:02:16 +0000 (UTC), "Mike Morrison"
> <mikeNoSpam@rmor.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>
> Mike.
>
> You said ..."none of the dos programmes so far tested will not work".
> Double negative. Do you realise that means they all work? Is that what
> you meant to say? I guess not.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Ross McKenzie
> ValuSoft
> Melbourne Australia
>
> valusoft AT optushome DOT com DOT au
>
> So long ... and thanks for all the fish.



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Mike Morrison
05-13-05 08:55 PM


Re: Win xp64
Uzytkownik "Markus Wiederstein" <markus.wiederstein@web.de> napisal w
wiadomosci news:op.sqprnmvzolrrg1@news.t-online.de...
> Well Mike,
>
[...]

> Special thanx to Ron, Patrick and the whole xHarbour and Harbour Team
> for this great Compiler and Builder !!!

Special BIG THANX :)

Regards,
Marek Horodyski






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Marek Horodyski
05-13-05 08:55 PM


Re: Win xp64
On Fri, 13 May 2005 12:02:16 +0000 (UTC),
Mike Morrison <mikeNoSpam@rmor.co.uk> wrote:
> I have just performed a test on an AMD64 running win XP 64, none of the do
s
> programmes so far tested will not work, this includes clipper 5.2 and 5.3 
as
> well as clipper compiled exes and blinker.  Reading around it looks as
> though xp64 does not support dos systems at all.  Anybody else had this
> experience?

AMD64 in 64 bit mode does not support VM86 mode. AFAIK there is no
processor which can work in 64bit mode and emulate VM86 so far so you
will have forgot about any 16bit application in native CPU mode.
In Linux you can use DOSEMU compiled with BOCHS (CPU emulator) to
run 16bit application. Probably we will soon sth similar for Win64.
But remember that such emulation cause heavy overhead so I strongly
suggest to recompile your source code with [x]Harbour as native
32 or 64 bit Windows application.

best regards,
Przemek

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Przemyslaw Czerpak
05-15-05 01:55 AM


Re: Win xp64
Mike,

There is an open source product named "DosBox" (search on google) that
emulates a MsDos on 32 bits and runs ok on Windows x64.

I have used it to run Clipper applications on Windows x64 and they work
really fine.

regards,

Antonio



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Antonio Linares
05-15-05 01:55 PM


Re: Win xp64
Hello,

> There is an open source product named "DosBox" (search on google) that
> emulates a MsDos on 32 bits and runs ok on Windows x64.
>
> I have used it to run Clipper applications on Windows x64 and they work
> really fine.

Yes, DosBox is nice. BTW, here is short interview with the authors:
http://www.reloaded.org/interview.php?IntID=12&UID=1

Cheers, Roman



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roman modic
05-17-05 01:55 PM


Re: Win xp64
On Fri, 13 May 2005 12:02:16 +0000 (UTC),
Mike Morrison <mikeNoSpam@rmor.co.uk> wrote:
> I have just performed a test on an AMD64 running win XP 64, none of the do
s
> programmes so far tested will not work, this includes clipper 5.2 and 5.3 
as
> well as clipper compiled exes and blinker.  Reading around it looks as
> though xp64 does not support dos systems at all.  Anybody else had this
> experience?

AMD64 in 64 bit mode does not support VM86 mode. AFAIK there is no
processor which can work in 64bit mode and emulate VM86 so far so you
will have forgot about any 16bit application in native CPU mode.
In Linux you can use DOSEMU compiled with BOCHS (CPU emulator) to
run 16bit application. Probably we will soon sth similar for Win64.
But remember that such emulation cause heavy overhead so I strongly
suggest to recompile your source code with [x]Harbour as native
32 or 64 bit Windows application.

best regards,
Przemek

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Przemyslaw Czerpak
05-18-05 01:55 AM


Re: Win xp64
Mike,

There is an open source product named "DosBox" (search on google) that
emulates a MsDos on 32 bits and runs ok on Windows x64.

I have used it to run Clipper applications on Windows x64 and they work
really fine.

regards,

Antonio



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Antonio Linares
05-18-05 08:55 AM


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