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Post Follow-up to this messagebrian d foy wrote: > Prices: $16 in the US, $30 outside the US. Web only subscriptions > are $16. If we can get enough subscribers in the European Union, we'll > start printing there too and lower the cost. If you like, you can > start your subscription with the Winter 2004 issue and save money > by not having to buy the back issue later. I just wonder how many people will perceive this as a commercial message... -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbokma.com/perl/ Perl programmer available: http://castleamber.com/ Happy Customers: http://castleamber.com/testimonials.html
Post Follow-up to this messageJohn Bokma wrote: > > I just wonder how many people will perceive this as a commercial > message... Yes, advertising yourself as a programmer for hire is a commercial message. > JohnÂ_Â_Â_Â_Â_Â_Â_Â_Â_Â_Â_Â_Â_Â_Â_Â_Â_Â_ Â_SmallÂ_PerlÂ_scripts:Â_http://johnbokm a.com/perl/ > PerlÂ_programmerÂ_available:Â_Â_Â_Â_Â_[u rl]http://castleamber.com/[/url] > HappyÂ_Customers:Â_http://castleamber.com/testimonials.html But then, most spammers dont draw attention to themselves. gtoomey
Post Follow-up to this messageGregory Toomey wrote: > John Bokma wrote: > > > Yes, advertising yourself as a programmer for hire is a commercial > message. If you consider a signature advertising, do yourself, and maybe the entire Usenet community a favour, read the netiquette carefully. clueless n00b. -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbokma.com/perl/ Perl programmer available: http://castleamber.com/ Happy Customers: http://castleamber.com/testimonials.html
Post Follow-up to this messageGregory Toomey wrote: > But then, most spammers dont draw attention to themselves. I wonder how happy bigpond.com is with you using nospam@ as a drop box. -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbokma.com/perl/ Perl programmer available: http://castleamber.com/ Happy Customers: http://castleamber.com/testimonials.html
Post Follow-up to this messageIn article <Xns964C24BF3C8castleamber@130.133.1.4>, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote: > brian d foy wrote: > > I just wonder how many people will perceive this as a commercial message...[/color ] People may perceive that, but this is really a community project. I'd love to give it away from free, it it actually incurs costs, and I only charge what I need to pay the bills. No one gets any money for their work on TPR. I did think about this issue quite a bit though, and I'm completely aware on the non-commercial nature of usenet. However, Jon Orwant had the same sort of advertisements for TPJ during its time and it didn't seem to be a problem. It also wasn't a problem for the two years we did PDF-only issues and gave them away for free. At most, you'll see four of these messages a year, and I'm only sending them to two groups. In each group, I have a long posting history (although I've been less frequent lately) and have given quite a bit of free time to helping others. I think that might let those four messages a year squeak by. :) -- brian d foy, comdog@panix.com Subscribe to The Perl Review: http://www.theperlreview.com
Post Follow-up to this messageIn article <Xns964DDE8EF293castleamber@130.133.1.4>, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote: >Gregory Toomey wrote: > Just how the heck are to find out that such a resource even EXISTS, if not through here? Plus, at least in this case, the "vendor" is a person who has contributed GREATLY to THIS VERY NEWSGROUP! Not only that, but his (foy's) post is about a means to LEARN MORE about perl -- if that isn't of interest to most (all?) readers of this group, then I don't know what is! I myself would like to see MORE such posts, of eg especially conferences (non-free, thus "commercial") and books. David
Post Follow-up to this messageIn article <090520051650391392%comdog@panix.com>, brian d foy <comdog@panix.com> wrote: >In article <Xns964C24BF3C8castleamber@130.133.1.4>, John Bokma ><john@castleamber.com> wrote: > > > > Over at comp.lang.lisp, one guy has talked at length about his book, "Practical Common Lisp", and no one, as far as I can tell, has complained. (Well, he did post various versions of it on-line.) Over at comp.unix.solaris, one guy has written, and talked about at length, his book on programming to Solaris. Again, no complaints that I've seen. (And, as far as I know, in this case it is available only via getting from a publisher, for money.) In my opinion, the ends justifies the means -- *if* the ends are of benefit to at least a substantial part of a group's readership. David
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