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[OT] HTML Template for Small Online Newspaper?
All righty... someone has asked me to assume the role of The Computer Guy
on this subject; after responding with a hearty 'I dunno' I was asked if I
could 'ask around'...

... and asking around I am.  I've been asked to find HTML templates to be
used for putting up a small online monthly newspaper; if anyone Out There
is generous enough to point out a direction or two for me - Google is
*too* generous, a search for 'small online newspaper html templates' (no
') brings back... about 345,000 results - it would be appreciated.

DD


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docdwarf@panix.com
04-26-05 08:55 PM


Re: [OT] HTML Template for Small Online Newspaper?
<docdwarf@panix.com> wrote in message news:d4laf7$75v$1@panix5.panix.com...
>
> All righty... someone has asked me to assume the role of The Computer Guy
> on this subject; after responding with a hearty 'I dunno' I was asked if I
> could 'ask around'...
>
> ... and asking around I am.  I've been asked to find HTML templates to be
> used for putting up a small online monthly newspaper; if anyone Out There
> is generous enough to point out a direction or two for me - Google is
> *too* generous, a search for 'small online newspaper html templates' (no
> ') brings back... about 345,000 results - it would be appreciated.
>
> DD
>

I spent several days last year looking for some template ideas. I found good
and bad sites. Try this one: http://www.webservertalk.com/

I have no affiliation with them financially or otherwise, but they are good,
and the template I finally opted for for the TW e-zine, came from one of
their affiliate sites. (Feedback on it has been very positive and it was
easy for me to modify it to my requirements.).

You can view this month's newsletter by going to:
http://taurangawriters.org.nz

... and pressing the 'NEWSLETTER' button...

Notice that different pages have different formatting and feel, but within
an overall cohesive theme. That is down to the template and its CSS, not to
me....

HTH,

Pete.




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Pete Dashwood
04-26-05 08:55 PM


Re: [OT] HTML Template for Small Online Newspaper?
In article <3d71ruF6t7akpU1@individual.net>,
Pete Dashwood <dashwood@enternet.co.nz> wrote:
>
><docdwarf@panix.com> wrote in message news:d4laf7$75v$1@panix5.panix.com...

[snip - and I interrupt myself]
 

[snip]

>I spent several days last year looking for some template ideas. I found goo
d
>and bad sites. Try this one: http://www.webservertalk.com/

Gah... had a bit of a fright there, I typed '.org' instead of '.com'...
now, let's see... wah and hoo, bunch of stuff there!

>
>I have no affiliation with them financially or otherwise, but they are good
,
>and the template I finally opted for for the TW e-zine, came from one of
>their affiliate sites. (Feedback on it has been very positive and it was
>easy for me to modify it to my requirements.).
>
>You can view this month's newsletter by going to:
>http://taurangawriters.org.nz
>
>... and pressing the 'NEWSLETTER' button...
>
>Notice that different pages have different formatting and feel, but within
>an overall cohesive theme. That is down to the template and its CSS, not to
>me....

Delightful.  Without getting *too* deeply into how it happened... someone
in Estonia recommended that I look into something called php-Nuke, from
the Open Source movement; it was used to create

http://www.pohjarannik.ee

... and if I can get it to make sense it looks to be exquisitely
malleable.  The difficulty is, of course, getting up-to-speed on this in a
manner which will allow me to be productive.  Evidently there are some
hosting companies which include php-Nuke right off the bat... my luck
being what it is the one I've been asked to work with (globat.com) doesn't
appear to do so.

Thanks much!

DD


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docdwarf@panix.com
04-26-05 08:55 PM


Re: [OT] HTML Template for Small Online Newspaper?
I know how some in this group feel about M$ products, but I use Microsoft
Publisher (that has *bunches* of such templates) and then "save as web page"
.

Of course, M$ html output is KNOWN for the fact that it works well with IE, 
but
sometimes (often?) fails with Netscape.

--
Bill Klein
wmklein <at> ix.netcom.com
<docdwarf@panix.com> wrote in message news:d4laf7$75v$1@panix5.panix.com...
>
> All righty... someone has asked me to assume the role of The Computer Guy
> on this subject; after responding with a hearty 'I dunno' I was asked if I
> could 'ask around'...
>
> ... and asking around I am.  I've been asked to find HTML templates to be
> used for putting up a small online monthly newspaper; if anyone Out There
> is generous enough to point out a direction or two for me - Google is
> *too* generous, a search for 'small online newspaper html templates' (no
> ') brings back... about 345,000 results - it would be appreciated.
>
> DD
>



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William M. Klein
04-26-05 08:55 PM


Re: [OT] HTML Template for Small Online Newspaper?
In article <2Ttbe.1131926$za2.182986@news.easynews.com>,
William M. Klein <wmklein@nospam.netcom.com> wrote:
>I know how some in this group feel about M$ products, but I use Microsoft
>Publisher (that has *bunches* of such templates) and then "save as web page".[/colo
r]

I will pass this along.

Thanks much!

DD

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docdwarf@panix.com
04-26-05 08:55 PM


Re: [OT] HTML Template for Small Online Newspaper?
docdwarf@panix.com wrote:
>
> Delightful.  Without getting *too* deeply into how it happened... someone
> in Estonia recommended that I look into something called php-Nuke, from
> the Open Source movement; it was used to create
>
> http://www.pohjarannik.ee
>
> ... and if I can get it to make sense it looks to be exquisitely
> malleable.  The difficulty is, of course, getting up-to-speed on this in a
> manner which will allow me to be productive.  Evidently there are some
> hosting companies which include php-Nuke right off the bat... my luck
> being what it is the one I've been asked to work with (globat.com) doesn't
> appear to do so.

A word of warning here - phpNuke has been the target of a few
exploitations in recent months.  Make sure you (or your ISP) keep in up
to date (dare I say it?) "religiously".  :)


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LX-i
04-27-05 08:55 AM


Re: [OT] HTML Template for Small Online Newspaper?
"William M. Klein" <wmklein@nospam.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:2Ttbe.1131926$za2.182986@news.easynews.com...
> I know how some in this group feel about M$ products, but I use Microsoft
> Publisher (that has *bunches* of such templates) and then "save as web
page".
>
> Of course, M$ html output is KNOWN for the fact that it works well with
IE, but
> sometimes (often?) fails with Netscape.
>

I too, am not anti MS (notice that Gerry Peacock seems to have stopped
posting here - maybe he got fed up with MS bashing?), however, I would NOT
use MS Word or Publisher to generate web pages. The MS Classes and styles
that are automatically included are horrific. You CAN save as a 'filtered'
web page and this removes some of the nonsense. On the rare occasions when
people send me web pages produced by Word or Publisher I let Dreamweaver
loose on them immediately. It has a 'clean up MS HTML' feature and it will
tell you what it took out. I have never had a page fail to work properly
after this exercise so it simply confirms that much of what MS puts in is
just unnecessary, and is probably someone's idea of optimizing for MS
Browsers.

People who are serious about web development are better off using proper web
tools. Font Page and Cold Fusion are MS products that fall in this category
and many people find them useful. (I don't personally use them because,
again, Front Page adds little directories of its own to the server and this
muddies the purity of my web server virtual directory structure, which I
spend many hours optimizing and tuning...)

It's funny, Dreamweaver also automatically includes its own directories if
you use advanced features of it (like database connections and bindings, and
certain layered behaviours), and I don't mind that. I think it is because
the purpose of the DW additions is documented and you can look at them and
see why they there  and what is in them makes sense. They actually increase
the elegance of your application, while the MS directories are undocumented,
and you are not supposed to notice them or wonder what they do...

Dreamweaver does it for me, but I also use AceHTMLPro (which used to be
free, although I believe it is now only  free for a trial period.) Both of
these are excellent.

I can't stress enough also, that whatever you use, you SHOULD learn at least
HTML. I often change DW code to work slightly differently or add something
to it. The first web site I ever built (in 1994) I used Notepad. Everything
was coded by hand in straight HTML. It had animations and music which I also
built from scratch.

The BOTTOM LINE is:

If you are going to develop web pages, get some decent tools. MS Word and
Publisher would only be in extremsis, and then for something temporary or
one off.

Pete.





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Pete Dashwood
04-27-05 08:55 AM


Re: [OT] HTML Template for Small Online Newspaper?
In article <895a$426ee397$45491c57$32370@KNOLOGY.NET>,
LX-i  <lxi0007@netscape.net> wrote:
>docdwarf@panix.com wrote: 
>
>A word of warning here - phpNuke has been the target of a few
>exploitations in recent months.  Make sure you (or your ISP) keep in up
>to date (dare I say it?) "religiously".  :)

Thanks much for the warning... did you know that some people have called
atheism 'a religion'?

DD


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docdwarf@panix.com
04-27-05 01:55 PM


Re: [OT] HTML Template for Small Online Newspaper?
William M. Klein wrote:
> I know how some in this group feel about M$ products, but I use
> Microsoft Publisher (that has *bunches* of such templates) and then
> "save as web page".
> Of course, M$ html output is KNOWN for the fact that it works well
> with IE, but sometimes (often?) fails with Netscape.

I believe MSWord can also save as HTML and has bags and bags of templates,
forms, etc.

Who cares whether the result works with Netscape?



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HeyBub
04-27-05 08:55 PM


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