Re: OT fascism (was: -socialism)

..    On  24.03.05
wrote  howard@brazee.net (Howard Brazee)
on  /COMP/LANG/COBOL
in  d1uk8t$q10$1@peabody.colorado.edu
about  OT -socialism


HB> Does anybody have definitions of fascism and National Socialism that
HB> are not emotionally connected to the states we associate them with?

Well, its hard to explain it in abstract terms.

The main point is the violent destruction of each and every form of
independent organisation of working people, so that they can be
subjected to exploitation without any resistance. This is not achieved
by police violence alone, but it uses the mob violence of a petty-
bourgeois mass movement.

Fascism is the name given to the rule of Mussolini in Italy,
derived from the symbol used by his movment, the antique Roman
"fascii". Fascism then became the generic term for this political
phenomenon; "national socialism" is part of the name of the
corresponding party in Germany, intended to fool the adherants.


HB> I get the idea that these are states where nominal ownership of
HB> companies is the people, but the state runs them.

No, the goal is to strengthen the rule of private property. If
there were public works programs and investements in Hitler's Germany,
that was just another form of Keynesian economic policy, just as the
New Deal in the USA. Just that in the German case, the bill had to be
paid by the robberies by war than in the case of Roosevelt.


Yours,
Lüko Willms                                     http://www.willms-edv.de
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