OT -socialism

On 23-Mar-2005, "James J. Gavan" <jgavandeletethis@shaw.ca> wrote:

> 11:35 - Fascism

Does anybody have definitions of fascism and National Socialism that are not
emotionally connected to the states we associate them with?

I get the idea that these are states where nominal ownership of companies is
 the
people, but the state runs them.   But those aren't the main things people
object to - and often times modern states emulate those.     They object to 
the
dictators who run the state that runs those businesses - especially because
those dictators do bad things elsewhere.