Multi Language

OK Skippy,

I got it right recalling you making a reference to Gr and Turkish. I
take it you were then still working with mainframes. Southern Cyprus
based, perhaps, you were producing applications in English and Gr ?

Just curious to know how you went about it.

What's at the back of that, sometime back I made the statement 'Setting
a constant at the beginning of an application one could invoke (go to) a
method containing literals for English or Gr as appropriate, to
supply the text for message boxes, in a PC environment'. Those separate
methods/(paragraphs) being housed in the class that wants to initiate
the message as a result of a validation error.

Robert picked me up on that saying it should be done through look-up
tables - nothing to do with the related class/source. His suggestion is
a valid and viable way of doing it. However, I foresee problems down the
road where the look-up files/tables just grow and grow and grow, and
grow as each developer adds yet another new message, (literal). The now
perhaps defunct literals can't be guaranteed to be deleted. Yes I know
that is an 'administrative' problem - but I can see it happening.

So, any comments ?

Nearest I ever got to Cyprus was Egypt :-) Never got to save to go there
on holiday - wasn't a boozer but I think I spent my money at the NAAFI
(PX to you) - supplementing the gawdawful English cook house diet. We
had casks of the sherry Commanderea (?) and even had ouzo/zebib - Yikes !

Even more dumb - never saved to go to Italy. An RAAF wing commander
offered to get me and my friend, via 78 RAAF Wing, based in Malta, a
freebie all the way to Rome !

Jimmy

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:54:06 GMT, "James J. Gavan"
<jgavandeletethis@shaw.ca> enlightened us:

>OK Skippy,
>
>I got it right recalling you making a reference to Gr and Turkish. I
>take it you were then still working with mainframes. Southern Cyprus
>based, perhaps, you were producing applications in English and Gr ?
>
>Just curious to know how you went about it.
>

No I was living in Nicosia which is a little in the North away from
Larnica and Pathos and all of the beach resorts.

Indeed I was doing mainframe programming but it was only to interface
the client's ATM system and Teller system into my employer's suite of
software.  We did not translate anything to Gr.  With Cyprus having
once been a British colony, English was very common especially in
business, so they never asked for putting everything into Gr.  At
that time, I don't think we could have done it any way.  They were on
a VSE machine!  Now, it would be possible becuase they are on MVS and
our software now has that capability.

I did do something like what you are describing with Thai when I lived
in Bangkok.

>What's at the back of that, sometime back I made the statement 'Setting
>a constant at the beginning of an application one could invoke (go to) a
>method containing literals for English or Gr as appropriate, to
>supply the text for message boxes, in a PC environment'. Those separate
>methods/(paragraphs) being housed in the class that wants to initiate
>the message as a result of a validation error.
>
>Robert picked me up on that saying it should be done through look-up
>tables - nothing to do with the related class/source. His suggestion is
>a valid and viable way of doing it. However, I foresee problems down the
>road where the look-up files/tables just grow and grow and grow, and
>grow as each developer adds yet another new message, (literal). The now
>perhaps defunct literals can't be guaranteed to be deleted. Yes I know
>that is an 'administrative' problem - but I can see it happening.
>
>So, any comments ?
>

We do it with copybooks and replace all of the maps for the online
stuff.

>Nearest I ever got to Cyprus was Egypt :-) Never got to save to go there
>on holiday - wasn't a boozer but I think I spent my money at the NAAFI
>(PX to you) - supplementing the gawdawful English cook house diet. We
>had casks of the sherry Commanderea (?) and even had ouzo/zebib - Yikes !
>
>Even more dumb - never saved to go to Italy. An RAAF wing commander
>offered to get me and my friend, via 78 RAAF Wing, based in Malta, a
>freebie all the way to Rome !
>
>Jimmy

regards,

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SkippyPB wrote:
>
> We do it with copybooks and replace all of the maps for the online
> stuff.

Thanks Skippy. Having pissed off that Spaniard, mainframe-wise I now
know what you are talking about when you use the word 'maps'.

Jimmy