America needs to outsource MORE to help India

http://reuters.myway.com/article/20...S-QUAKE-DC.html

You Americans who complain about outsourcing are heartless and racist, full
stop.  Because of the tragedy in India, hundreds of thousands of people will
die.  But all of this could have been avoided if India had more money to
spend on a warning system.  Because India is very poor, it could not afford
to have one set up.

The best way that India could become a more developed country is if America
provides more outsourcing to India.  Since there are millions of computer
jobs in the US that Americans aren't qualified for or are willing to do then
it makes sense that the outsourcing process should be increased, not
discouraged.

With more jobs in its economy, India would have more public funds to spend
on projects such as a warning system.  How can you Americans be so greedy
and heartless?

I am personally happy that outsourcing is giving more jobs to Indians.  They
are quite capable at doing their jobs and they are willing to work overtime
without complaining!  I think its unreasonable and selfish for American
workers to demand frivolous things like a 40 hour work w along with
medical and dental benefits.  In today's global economy, such "benefits" are
detrimental to doing business.

For example, I once worked as a supervisor for an internet service provider.
I had this ungrateful employee who didn't like the fact that he was on pager
duty 24/7.  One wend, he had the gall to go out of town without my
permission and hence, he was out of my reach of supervision.  I quickly
fired him and hired an eager H1-B at half of his salary.  My new employee
was much better: he never asked for time off in lieu for the overtime hours
he put in and he didn't mind if I called his house at 3:00 AM to remind him
of the things he forgot to do at work the day before.

I've since retired, and last I heard, my company could not find a qualified
American to do my job and they've outsourced my old position to an Indian.
Good on them, I say!

Full stop,
Tavington

"Tavington" <tavington@zsazsabinks.com> wrote in message
news:KBWAd.620820$%k.92892@pd7tw2no...
> http://reuters.myway.com/article/20...S-QUAKE-DC.html
>
> You Americans who complain about outsourcing are heartless and racist,
> full stop.  Because of the tragedy in India, hundreds of thousands of
> people will die.  But all of this could have been avoided if India had
> more money to spend on a warning system.  Because India is very poor, it
> could not afford to have one set up.
>
> The best way that India could become a more developed country is if
> America provides more outsourcing to India.  Since there are millions of
> computer jobs in the US that Americans aren't qualified for or are willing
> to do then it makes sense that the outsourcing process should be
> increased, not discouraged.
>
> With more jobs in its economy, India would have more public funds to spend
> on projects such as a warning system.  How can you Americans be so greedy
> and heartless?
>
> I am personally happy that outsourcing is giving more jobs to Indians.
> They are quite capable at doing their jobs and they are willing to work
> overtime without complaining!  I think its unreasonable and selfish for
> American workers to demand frivolous things like a 40 hour work w along
> with medical and dental benefits.  In today's global economy, such
> "benefits" are detrimental to doing business.
>
> For example, I once worked as a supervisor for an internet service
> provider. I had this ungrateful employee who didn't like the fact that he
> was on pager duty 24/7.  One wend, he had the gall to go out of town
> without my permission and hence, he was out of my reach of supervision.  I
> quickly fired him and hired an eager H1-B at half of his salary.  My new
> employee was much better: he never asked for time off in lieu for the
> overtime hours he put in and he didn't mind if I called his house at 3:00
> AM to remind him of the things he forgot to do at work the day before.

I DID NOT KNOW CANADA HAS H1-B VISAS!

GOOD IMPORT THOSE FREAKS INTO CANADA
>
> I've since retired, and last I heard, my company could not find a
> qualified American to do my job and they've outsourced my old position to
> an Indian. Good on them, I say!
>
> Full stop,
> Tavington
>

Remarkable that India has money, talent and capability to develop nuclear
weapons, But can't find the money to feed it's people, house it's people,
clothe it's people or prevent the all too frequent floods and corruption
endemic in it's government.

Must be easier to just wait for a hand-out than work for a hand up. It
follows in a straight line ...that it also must be true, since everyone
keeps saying it...everything is America's fault. I guess we should just stop
sending tourists, who spend money, accepting worker, who send money home or
mediate your battles with your neighbors, constantly since 1949, after you
proudly kicked England, your last benefactor, out. Is that a pattern?

I know you are hurting, thus can't be held accountable for every
unrestricted thought that slips past the filter of "good sense" and spews
out to embarrass you and all your countrymen, but next time...try to think
before exercising your tenuous right to free speech.

"Tavington" <tavington@zsazsabinks.com> wrote in message
news:KBWAd.620820$%k.92892@pd7tw2no...
> http://reuters.myway.com/article/20...S-QUAKE-DC.html
>
> You Americans who complain about outsourcing are heartless and racist,
> full stop.  Because of the tragedy in India, hundreds of thousands of
> people will die.  But all of this could have been avoided if India had
> more money to spend on a warning system.  Because India is very poor, it
> could not afford to have one set up.
>
> The best way that India could become a more developed country is if
> America provides more outsourcing to India.  Since there are millions of
> computer jobs in the US that Americans aren't qualified for or are willing
> to do then it makes sense that the outsourcing process should be
> increased, not discouraged.
>
> With more jobs in its economy, India would have more public funds to spend
> on projects such as a warning system.  How can you Americans be so greedy
> and heartless?
>
> I am personally happy that outsourcing is giving more jobs to Indians.
> They are quite capable at doing their jobs and they are willing to work
> overtime without complaining!  I think its unreasonable and selfish for
> American workers to demand frivolous things like a 40 hour work w along
> with medical and dental benefits.  In today's global economy, such
> "benefits" are detrimental to doing business.
>
> For example, I once worked as a supervisor for an internet service
> provider. I had this ungrateful employee who didn't like the fact that he
> was on pager duty 24/7.  One wend, he had the gall to go out of town
> without my permission and hence, he was out of my reach of supervision.  I
> quickly fired him and hired an eager H1-B at half of his salary.  My new
> employee was much better: he never asked for time off in lieu for the
> overtime hours he put in and he didn't mind if I called his house at 3:00
> AM to remind him of the things he forgot to do at work the day before.
>
> I've since retired, and last I heard, my company could not find a
> qualified American to do my job and they've outsourced my old position to
> an Indian. Good on them, I say!
>
> Full stop,
> Tavington
>

Tavington (tavington@zsazsabinks.com) wrote:
:
: You Americans who complain about outsourcing are heartless and racist, ful
l
: stop.

You are a troll who won't stop.

: Because of the tragedy in India, hundreds of thousands of people will
: die.  But all of this could have been avoided if India had more money
: to spend on a warning system.  Because India is very poor, it could not
: afford to have one set up.
:

But enough grain to export even though 1/3 of the population is starving:

http://www.siliconindia.com/shownew...ewscat=Business
Despite surplus a third of India's population starves

"IANS

Thursday, October 24, 2002

NEW DELHI: Even as India's granaries are overflowing the country is
faced with the situation of having the world's largest number of
hungry people, says a report by a premier research institute prepared
with U.N. help.

About a third of the country's one billion people starve for want of
adequate food and some 160 million go without even one square meal a
day, says the study by the U.N. World Food Programme and the M.S.
Swaminathan Research Foundation.

This is a strange irony for a country with an abundance of food stocks
rotting away in warehouses and exporting millions of tonnes of food
grain...."


And there was enough money to purchase the Russian aircraft carrier,
Admiral Gorshkov:

http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanh...an212004/i1.asp
India, Russia sign Gorshkov deal  - Deccan Herald

"India, Russia sign Gorshkov deal

The refurbished aircraft carrier with its fighter planes will give the
Indian Navy a virtual marine monopoly in the South Asian region.

NEW DELHI, DHNS / UNI:

After protracted negotiations since the mid 1990s, India on Tuesday
inked its biggest ever defence deal worth 1.5 billion US dollars (Rs
7,000 crore) for the acquisition of 44,500 tonne aircraft carrier
Admiral Gorshkov with its complement of 28 MIG 29-K fighter planes
from Russia.

The deal for the purchase of the refurbished aircraft carrier was
announced by Defence Minister George Fernandes and his Russian
counterpart Sergei Ivanov at a joint press conference. Mr Fernandes
said the signing of the deal was a historic occasion and constituted a
major landmark between India and Russia in strategic and defence
relations. He said it would contribute to the furthering of our
defence, technological and bilateral relations as a whole.

Mr Ivanov observed that India-Russia relations had progressed from a
buyer-seller one to R&D as evident from cooperation over the Bhramos
missile project. The military-technical ties between the two countries
also extended to joint exercises with each other, he said. The two
sides had common perceptions on Iraq and Afghanistan, besides, a
meeting of minds on counter-terrorism and nuclear non-proliferation,
Mr Ivanov pointed out.

Referring to the interaction with his Russian counterpart, Mr
Fernandes explained, our discussions were productive with several
commonalities. He said defence relations were excellent and on track.
Mr Fernandes said, Ivanov is a friend of India.

Mr Ivanov said defence ties form a fundamental component of
India-Russia relations and events around the globe demand
international efforts to cope with them. In the context of the
aircraft carrier sale, the Russian Defence Minister noted, future
contracts involve technical assistance and development of
infrastructure. Commenting on the T-90 main battle tank imported from
Russia, Mr Ivanov said they are fully operational and have undergone
all range of tests to assess its performance under different climatic
conditions. The carrier will be modernised for the Indian Navy under a
700-million-dollar project.

Admiral Gorshkov was laid down at a shipyard in Nikolayev (Ukraine) in
December 1978 and inducted into the then USSR Navy in December 1991 as
Baku.

ADMIRAL GORSHKOV

* Cost: US $1.5 billion, the biggest defence deal so far
* The ship has a fleet of 28 Mig-29K fighter planes
* Weighs over 44,000 tonnes, speed of more than 30 knots
* Nuclear-armed
* neighbours Pakistan and China left behind"


--Jerry Leslie
Note: leslie@jrlvax.houston.rr.com is invalid for email

"Tavington" <tavington@zsazsabinks.com> wrote in message
news:KBWAd.620820$%k.92892@pd7tw2no...
> http://reuters.myway.com/article/20...S-QUAKE-DC.html
>
> You Americans who complain about outsourcing are heartless and racist,
> full stop.  Because of the tragedy in India, hundreds of thousands of
> people will die.  But all of this could have been avoided if India had
> more money to spend on a warning system.  Because India is very poor, it
> could not afford to have one set up.

No, but it can afford nukes. Anyway, I guess it's good news for the American
economy as lots of those lovely outsourced jobs now have vacancies. I
understand they have some fantastic surfers now though!

Hellraiser.........>

You sound pretty self-righteous to me, Tavington. There are three basic
kinds of karma: Prarabdha, Kriyaman and Sanchit. These not only apply
to the indiviudual, but accumulate with groups as well. I notice you
don't seem to be concerned about any other country, but India, which
the tidal wave affected. Companies, individuals, and governments,
including the U.S., are pitching in to help in this tragedy. Chant or
sing HU to bring yourself into harmony with these events.
May The Blessings Be, John

Your either a moron or a troll or both.
You are also a psychopath.

You fired an American because he probrably had a death in the family
and left town...

I'm sure you loved your little Indian XXXXX slave because you could
always threaten him with deportation and paid him pennies on the dollar
what you had to pay a American worker.   If he had been a citizen you
probrably would not have hired him.

They probrably pulled the same crap most companies pull these days when
they want to outsource a job they know will have valid US applicants.
They post that they need a PhD to clean the toilets and of course a US
PhD could not afford to take it on the wage posted so they get and
Indian with a PhD from good old Xerox U. to do the job.

The Indian goverment could have bought into a system used in the US
that would have given them 4 hours notice about tsunami coming their
way probrably  with US grant money.  Instead they built nukes so there
you go, my condolances to all of the poor folks who are suffering
because of the stupidity of the Indian government.

If you want to send aid to India its your right, slavery in India that
only benefits the top 1% wealthiest in the US is not an aid package it
is exploitation.

Hope you keep it under the mattress because when all of the tax payers
in the US, you know the great unwashed known as the middle class.
default and the social systems which are already pressed collapse even
your money will be worthless.

Thundercleets

Let me get this straight. You are blaming Americans for not giving
Indians our jobs, which would somehow have given you enough money to
install an early warning system?
Why weren't you innovative enough to have built an economy such as we
have been doing since the early 60's. If what you say is true and us
americans aren't qualified for any of these software jobs, then how is
it we have a microsoft and where did IBM start?
You Indians can do a little coding and you work for pennies, now you
talk as if you are world saviours and the only people qualified to do
this kind of work. We built it and in the 11th hour you are taking
credit for it.
You are CHEAP FOREIGN LABOR. Nothing more , nothing less.

donnyone2@aol.com wrote:
> Let me get this straight. You are blaming Americans for not giving
> Indians our jobs, which would somehow have given you enough money to
> install an early warning system?
> Why weren't you innovative enough to have built an economy such as we
> have been doing since the early 60's. If what you say is true and us
> americans aren't qualified for any of these software jobs, then how
is
> it we have a microsoft and where did IBM start?
> You Indians can do a little coding and you work for pennies, now you
> talk as if you are world saviours and the only people qualified to do
> this kind of work. We built it and in the 11th hour you are taking
> credit for it.
> You are CHEAP FOREIGN LABOR. Nothing more , nothing less.

Beware, Donnnyone XXXXwit, India's MSEWS - "Mentally Sick Early Warning
System" is going to get you!

indiaBPOking.

>
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>
> I DID NOT KNOW CANADA HAS H1-B VISAS!
>
>GOOD IMPORT THOSE FREAKS INTO CANADA 

If India is so poor and in need, why did they refuse any offered aid by the 
US
and other countries to help with this tragedy?  They are too arrogant to acc
ept
help, they don't need our money or our jobs.  Too bad Tavington's job wasn't
outsourced BEFORE he retired, it would have been good for him.




Bob Reed
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