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American Woman Follows Her Job to India
http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story...12.
html

American Woman Follows Her Job to India

By Anthony Mitchell
E-Commerce Times
12/07/04 5:00 AM PT

In some Christian and Hindu matrilinear communities in India, men
assume the surname of their brides and property does not pass from a
man to his own children but to the children of a man's sister. In
matrilinear societies, the most important man in a child's life may not
be their own father but, rather, their mother's brother.

Get the most important building blocks for profitable e-commerce. Let
VeriSign show you the best way to secure and authenticate your site,
enable your site to process online payments, and protect your online
business from the threat of fraud.

A strange thing happened after Tara Bradford was "Banglalored" and her
job was moved to India. She followed it and stayed.

In 2003, Tara was working in the U.S. as a trainer of customer service
representatives for Earthlink, an Internet service provider. It was her
fourth year with Earthlink and she was asked to go to India twice to
train her replacements.

Earthlink sent her to Hyderabad to help set up Earthlink's new support
center in that South Indian city. These trips familiarized her with
living conditions there. They also gave her the confidence to accept a
job offer as the chief trainer and head of client relations from an
InternationalStaff.net contract facility in Hyderabad after her
position with Earthlink was eliminated in October 2003.

Tara's position in India's fastest growing city provides insights in
three areas:

What it is like to be an American woman living alone in a far away
place;
The role of women in India versus the U.S.;
Issues faced by Indian employees and their employers in a rapidly
modernizing society.


Lack of Mutual Understanding
Traditional Asian societies are not well understood by Americans, who
often lack an understanding of the history of their own families.
According to Tara, the converse is also true.

"Even though India exports lots of people to the U.S., there is not a
solid understanding of the U.S. and U.S. society in India," Tara said.
This lack of mutual understanding lengthens the learning curve when
people from one part of the world s to work in another part of the
world, even when that work is conducted remotely.

Americans tend to view Asian cultures and countries in monolithic
terms. We do not fully appreciate the strength of regional identities
within the U.S., for example, the strong identification that many
people have with being Southerners.

There are strong regional, religious and communal (caste) identities in
South Asia, identities that are hard for Westerners to even discuss,
especially when we lack the vocabulary.

The South Wing
Through the end of British colonial rule in India on August 15, 1947,
the Hyderabad area was a principality not under direct control of the
British. It had been ruled for centuries by Muslim princes called
Nizams.

At the time of India's independence and partition, there was some local
support for the Hyderabad area becoming the South Wing of Pakistan,
with East Bengal forming the East Wing. Some former colonialists
persist in calling Hyderabad the South Wing today.

In a scene repeated numerous times since decolonization, Indian troops
occupied Hyderabad in September 1948 and thereby incorporated it into
India. Today, roughly 35 percent of Hyderabad's residents are Muslims
and the region retains Islamic influence in its art, architecture, and
social conservatism.

Bangalore receives more media attention than other South Asian cities
as an information technology hub. Hyderabad, 340 miles to the north,
has been more successful than Bangalore over the last few years in
attracting and retaining IT firms, as evidenced by Microsoft's (Nasdaq:
MSFT)  recent moves to expand its operations there from 640 employees
today to more than 3,200 employees by 2006.

Far from Home
Americans living abroad often report problems with loneliness, social
isolation and depression. After a month or two overseas in a strange
place, many people find themselves wishing that they could spend just
one hour in their favorite social spot back home.

Social isolation has not been a problem for Tara because she initially
went to Hyderabad as part of a managed deployment of a group of
Americans.

It is comparatively easy for Americans to build up social connections
in India. Tara quickly put together a social group of about five close
friends. Her friends come and go, as they would in fast-paced U.S.
settings, but they protect her from the social woes that normally
impact Americans living alone far from home.

Social health can be a critical component of overall well being,
particularly during times of rapid change and in social settings where
gender roles differ from what one has grown to expect.

Women, Caste, and Religion
The role of women varies widely across the Subcontinent, ranging from
matrilineal societies in some communities in the Southwest and
Northeast to conservative patrilineal Muslim and Hindu societies in the
North and Northwest where women have not traditionally had strong roles
in the formal economy.

In some Christian and Hindu matrilinear communities, men assume the
surname of their brides and property does not pass from a man to his
own children but to the children of a man's sister. In matrilinear
societies, the most important man in a child's life may not be their
own father but, rather, their mother's brother.

Women usually s to marry up (anuloma) in both matrilinear societies
and in Hindu and Christian patrilinear communities in India. Dowries
have traditionally been popular in anuloma marriages and remain the
norm in most Hindu and Christian marriages in India.

One might hear a woman whose family has paid dowry complain: "I paid
all this money for a husband, but I got a bad one." The rise of
unmarried women in IT firms in India has also increased dowry
expectations for many of those women, expectations that might continue
after a marriage.

Anuloma can create an excess of unmarried upper caste women. Caste in
Hindu and Christian communities in South Asia is largely determined by
birth (nasb). South Asian Muslims also use occupational background
(hasb) in determining status.

In Muslim communities, it is the men who s to marry up (pratiloma)
so brideprices may be given. Brideprices vary by community and
occupation. Internationally, Palestinian women claim relatively low
brideprices of about $8,000, whereas Saudis and some high-earning
highland Yemenis can be in the $45,000 range.

India now discourages dowries and brideprices, but retains separate
civil codes for Christians, Muslims, Hindus and foreigners.

Women in the Workplace
According to Tara, Hyderabad is more socially conservative than the New
Delhi area, owing to Hyderabad's history as a Muslim principality. In
Hyderabad, as in other conservative patrilinear societies in South
Asia, it would be rare for a woman to go up to and speak with a man
outside of the home or marketplace to whom she had not been previously
introduced. If she did that, it might be seen in overtly sexual terms.

Hyderabad is undergoing the type of social change that the U.S.
experienced in the 1950s, when it was accepted that women needed to
work but not everyone in the U.S. liked the fact that women were
appearing in previously male-dominated workplaces. In India, the
transition from traditional expectations to modern realities is most
visible in Western-oriented IT firms.

"Many Americans have the prejudice that women in India are looked down
on in the workplace," Tara said, "but in fact they are put on
pedestals." This is especially true for managers. Because she is a
foreigner and a manager, Tara is outside of the realm of traditional
gender conventions. She can go up to men and speak with them
unintroduced and she can transcend other traditional gender norms
without being sanctioned.

Information technology firms are at the forefront of creating new
social norms and workplace cultures. For many of the women employees at
InternationalStaff.net's IT outsourcing facilities in India and
Pakistan, they are the first women in their families who have ever held
a job outside of the home or the family business, or have been able to
live outside of their parents' home before marriage, or have had
realistic options to postpone or forgo marriage. IT firms are creating
a new middle class and new gender roles in South Asia.

As an American in an American-oriented call center , Tara takes the
lead in speaking with clients and then ensuring that clients' have
their needs met in the way programs are implemented. The other managers
at her facility work as a team, which in itself is unusual within
Indian business environments.

Indian businesses are traditionally hierarchical and highly
authoritarian. All decisions usually have to go through the top person,
and initiative at other levels is not encouraged. This remains the case
at firms outside of the IT industry, including parastatal firms.

Freshers and Post Colonial Education
Entry into an international business environment produces culture shock
for those who are not prepared for it. Culture shock is often dramatic
for entry-level hires at Western-oriented call centers. These new hires
are called freshers and are usually fresh out of three-year colleges.
They differ from "newbies" in workplaces in other countries because
freshers rarely have any prior work experience whatsoever.

Secondary education in South Asia is often segregated by gender,
especially at the better schools. Many higher educational institutions
are also segregated, and there is a plethora of women-only colleges.

Colleges in India often run along the lines of community colleges in
the U.S., with most students living at home and remaining under the
purview of their families, especially women college students. Students
from smaller towns might go to college in nearby larger cities within
the same state, but will often live in the homes of relatives in those
larger cities.

Teachers are held in much higher regard in South Asia than they are in
the U.S., due in large part to the persistent influence of colonialism
in South Asia. Under colonialism, Tara said, "students are expected to
sit still in class and not talk."

"In India, teachers are almost seen as gods," Tara said. Decolonization
may have been achieved politically in India and Pakistan in 1947, but
mental decolonization is far from complete.

Students in India are more liable to take everything in from their
teachers and to do so uncritically. In a workplace environment, Tara
said, "this means that they are more afraid of asking questions or of
standing up and participating." Trainers and their clients need to take
this into account in launching or maintaining IT programs.

On the positive side, nowhere else in the world are freshers more
attentive or more eager to learn than in India and Pakistan. Russ
Sandlin, who has worked on a consultancy basis as a manager at several
InternationalStaff.net contract facilities in South Asia and the
Persian Gulf, said that the biggest thing that Westerners fail to
understand about South Asian call center workers and managers is how
intently focused they are on meeting client expectations. This gives
Indians and Pakistanis an advantage over competitors elsewhere.

Freshers and Culture Shock
Freshers entering a call center usually have little or no experience
dealing with members of the opposite sex outside of family settings.
Single-sex secondary schools and colleges are the norm for many people
in India. They do not know how to relate to other people in a work
environment. They lack work interaction skills, having only been
exposed to family and school environments. They are excited but uneasy
about their new employment opportunity.

Tara reports that both freshers and senior staff are very respectful to
her. If they do not want her to know the topic of conversation, they
will speak in a language other than English. In her workplace, there
are often conversations going on around her in four different
languages. In both India and Pakistan, the language of business is
English.

Recruiting and Retaining Women
Families might discourage young women from working at call centers at
night, except at well-known firms. Retention of both male and female
workers is becoming an issue at call centers throughout India.

Women leave call center jobs to pursue higher education or for
marriage, Tara said. If a female call center employee marries, Tara
worries that her new family might not allow her to continue working,
especially at night. If a man marries, Tara knows that he will be back
at work again in two or three ws.

As we contribute to changes in South Asian societies, those societies
are contributing to changes within our own society as well.

Tara Bradford, in her role as an American woman in a South Asian call
center, is helping bridge two economies and two cultures. She is also
promoting American customer service standards for both U.S. programs
and the domestic Indian inbound programs that are increasingly being
taken up by IT firms offshore.


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Your Special Friend
12-08-04 08:56 AM


Re: American Woman Follows Her Job to India
On 7 Dec 2004 19:25:28 -0800, "Your Special Friend"
<ysf001@hotmail.com> wrote:

>http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story...12
.html
>
>American Woman Follows Her Job to India

snip..

>A strange thing happened after Tara Bradford was "Banglalored" and her
>job was moved to India. She followed it and stayed.

big snip..

Only in India she, can get a refreshing soda laced with pesticides.


"Coke, Pepsi may have to apply warning labels in India"
http://www.usatoday.com/money/indus...oke-pepsi_x.htm

here are some excerpts.

"Coca-Cola and PepsiCo said Tuesday that a court ruling in India means
they may soon have to put labels on bottles and cans there warning of
pesticide residues in their fizzy drinks."

"Last August, tests by an environmental group, Center for Science and
Environment, found pesticide residues many times the European limits
in 12 samples of beverages made by Coke and Pepsi."

"The center said tests conducted by its Pollution Monitoring
Laboratory showed cold drink brands sold by the firms in India
contained four toxic pesticides and insecticides: lindane, DDT,
malathion and chlorpyrifos."

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Tim Keating
12-08-04 08:56 PM


Re: American Woman Follows Her Job to India
Your Special Friend wrote:
>
http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story...ndia-38712.html[colo
r=darkred]
>
> American Woman Follows Her Job to India
>
> By Anthony Mitchell
> E-Commerce Times
> 12/07/04 5:00 AM PT
>
> In some Christian and Hindu matrilinear communities in India, men
> assume the surname of their brides and property does not pass from a
> man to his own children but to the children of a man's sister. In
> matrilinear societies, the most important man in a child's life may[/color]
not
> be their own father but, rather, their mother's brother.
>
> Get the most important building blocks for profitable e-commerce. Let
> VeriSign show you the best way to secure and authenticate your site,
> enable your site to process online payments, and protect your online
> business from the threat of fraud.
>
> A strange thing happened after Tara Bradford was "Banglalored" and
her
> job was moved to India. She followed it and stayed.
>
> In 2003, Tara was working in the U.S. as a trainer of customer
service
> representatives for Earthlink, an Internet service provider. It was
her
> fourth year with Earthlink and she was asked to go to India twice to
> train her replacements.
>
> Earthlink sent her to Hyderabad to help set up Earthlink's new
support
> center in that South Indian city. These trips familiarized her with
> living conditions there. They also gave her the confidence to accept
a
> job offer as the chief trainer and head of client relations from an
> InternationalStaff.net contract facility in Hyderabad after her
> position with Earthlink was eliminated in October 2003.
>
> Tara's position in India's fastest growing city provides insights in
> three areas:
>
> What it is like to be an American woman living alone in a far away
> place;
> The role of women in India versus the U.S.;
> Issues faced by Indian employees and their employers in a rapidly
> modernizing society.
>
>
> Lack of Mutual Understanding
> Traditional Asian societies are not well understood by Americans, who
> often lack an understanding of the history of their own families.
> According to Tara, the converse is also true.
>
> "Even though India exports lots of people to the U.S., there is not a
> solid understanding of the U.S. and U.S. society in India," Tara
said.
> This lack of mutual understanding lengthens the learning curve when
> people from one part of the world s to work in another part of the
> world, even when that work is conducted remotely.
>
> Americans tend to view Asian cultures and countries in monolithic
> terms. We do not fully appreciate the strength of regional identities
> within the U.S., for example, the strong identification that many
> people have with being Southerners.
>
> There are strong regional, religious and communal (caste) identities
in
> South Asia, identities that are hard for Westerners to even discuss,
> especially when we lack the vocabulary.
>
> The South Wing
> Through the end of British colonial rule in India on August 15, 1947,
> the Hyderabad area was a principality not under direct control of the
> British. It had been ruled for centuries by Muslim princes called
> Nizams.
>
> At the time of India's independence and partition, there was some
local
> support for the Hyderabad area becoming the South Wing of Pakistan,
> with East Bengal forming the East Wing. Some former colonialists
> persist in calling Hyderabad the South Wing today.
>
> In a scene repeated numerous times since decolonization, Indian
troops
> occupied Hyderabad in September 1948 and thereby incorporated it into
> India. Today, roughly 35 percent of Hyderabad's residents are Muslims
> and the region retains Islamic influence in its art, architecture,
and
> social conservatism.
>
> Bangalore receives more media attention than other South Asian cities
> as an information technology hub. Hyderabad, 340 miles to the north,
> has been more successful than Bangalore over the last few years in
> attracting and retaining IT firms, as evidenced by Microsoft's
(Nasdaq:
> MSFT)  recent moves to expand its operations there from 640 employees
> today to more than 3,200 employees by 2006.
>
> Far from Home
> Americans living abroad often report problems with loneliness, social
> isolation and depression. After a month or two overseas in a strange
> place, many people find themselves wishing that they could spend just
> one hour in their favorite social spot back home.
>
> Social isolation has not been a problem for Tara because she
initially
> went to Hyderabad as part of a managed deployment of a group of
> Americans.
>
> It is comparatively easy for Americans to build up social connections
> in India. Tara quickly put together a social group of about five
close
> friends. Her friends come and go, as they would in fast-paced U.S.
> settings, but they protect her from the social woes that normally
> impact Americans living alone far from home.
>
> Social health can be a critical component of overall well being,
> particularly during times of rapid change and in social settings
where
> gender roles differ from what one has grown to expect.
>
> Women, Caste, and Religion
> The role of women varies widely across the Subcontinent, ranging from
> matrilineal societies in some communities in the Southwest and
> Northeast to conservative patrilineal Muslim and Hindu societies in
the
> North and Northwest where women have not traditionally had strong
roles
> in the formal economy.
>
> In some Christian and Hindu matrilinear communities, men assume the
> surname of their brides and property does not pass from a man to his
> own children but to the children of a man's sister. In matrilinear
> societies, the most important man in a child's life may not be their
> own father but, rather, their mother's brother.
>
> Women usually s to marry up (anuloma) in both matrilinear
societies
> and in Hindu and Christian patrilinear communities in India. Dowries
> have traditionally been popular in anuloma marriages and remain the
> norm in most Hindu and Christian marriages in India.
>
> One might hear a woman whose family has paid dowry complain: "I paid
> all this money for a husband, but I got a bad one." The rise of
> unmarried women in IT firms in India has also increased dowry
> expectations for many of those women, expectations that might
continue
> after a marriage.
>
> Anuloma can create an excess of unmarried upper caste women. Caste in
> Hindu and Christian communities in South Asia is largely determined
by
> birth (nasb). South Asian Muslims also use occupational background
> (hasb) in determining status.
>
> In Muslim communities, it is the men who s to marry up (pratiloma)
> so brideprices may be given. Brideprices vary by community and
> occupation. Internationally, Palestinian women claim relatively low
> brideprices of about $8,000, whereas Saudis and some high-earning
> highland Yemenis can be in the $45,000 range.
>
> India now discourages dowries and brideprices, but retains separate
> civil codes for Christians, Muslims, Hindus and foreigners.
>
> Women in the Workplace
> According to Tara, Hyderabad is more socially conservative than the
New
> Delhi area, owing to Hyderabad's history as a Muslim principality. In
> Hyderabad, as in other conservative patrilinear societies in South
> Asia, it would be rare for a woman to go up to and speak with a man
> outside of the home or marketplace to whom she had not been
previously
> introduced. If she did that, it might be seen in overtly sexual
terms.
>
> Hyderabad is undergoing the type of social change that the U.S.
> experienced in the 1950s, when it was accepted that women needed to
> work but not everyone in the U.S. liked the fact that women were
> appearing in previously male-dominated workplaces. In India, the
> transition from traditional expectations to modern realities is most
> visible in Western-oriented IT firms.
>
> "Many Americans have the prejudice that women in India are looked
down
> on in the workplace," Tara said, "but in fact they are put on
> pedestals." This is especially true for managers. Because she is a
> foreigner and a manager, Tara is outside of the realm of traditional
> gender conventions. She can go up to men and speak with them
> unintroduced and she can transcend other traditional gender norms
> without being sanctioned.
>
> Information technology firms are at the forefront of creating new
> social norms and workplace cultures. For many of the women employees
at
> InternationalStaff.net's IT outsourcing facilities in India and
> Pakistan, they are the first women in their families who have ever
held
> a job outside of the home or the family business, or have been able
to
> live outside of their parents' home before marriage, or have had
> realistic options to postpone or forgo marriage. IT firms are
creating
> a new middle class and new gender roles in South Asia.
>
> As an American in an American-oriented call center , Tara takes the
> lead in speaking with clients and then ensuring that clients' have
> their needs met in the way programs are implemented. The other
managers
> at her facility work as a team, which in itself is unusual within
> Indian business environments.
>
> Indian businesses are traditionally hierarchical and highly
> authoritarian. All decisions usually have to go through the top
person,
> and initiative at other levels is not encouraged. This remains the
case
> at firms outside of the IT industry, including parastatal firms.
>
> Freshers and Post Colonial Education
> Entry into an international business environment produces culture
shock
> for those who are not prepared for it. Culture shock is often
dramatic
> for entry-level hires at Western-oriented call centers. These new
hires
> are called freshers and are usually fresh out of three-year colleges.
> They differ from "newbies" in workplaces in other countries because
> freshers rarely have any prior work experience whatsoever.
>
> Secondary education in South Asia is often segregated by gender,
> especially at the better schools. Many higher educational
institutions
> are also segregated, and there is a plethora of women-only colleges.
>
> Colleges in India often run along the lines of community colleges in
> the U.S., with most students living at home and remaining under the
> purview of their families, especially women college students.
Students
> from smaller towns might go to college in nearby larger cities within
> the same state, but will often live in the homes of relatives in
those
> larger cities.
>
> Teachers are held in much higher regard in South Asia than they are
in
> the U.S., due in large part to the persistent influence of
colonialism
> in South Asia. Under colonialism, Tara said, "students are expected
to
> sit still in class and not talk."
>
> "In India, teachers are almost seen as gods," Tara said.
Decolonization
> may have been achieved politically in India and Pakistan in 1947, but
> mental decolonization is far from complete.
>
> Students in India are more liable to take everything in from their
> teachers and to do so uncritically. In a workplace environment, Tara
> said, "this means that they are more afraid of asking questions or of
> standing up and participating." Trainers and their clients need to
take
> this into account in launching or maintaining IT programs.
>
> On the positive side, nowhere else in the world are freshers more
> attentive or more eager to learn than in India and Pakistan. Russ
> Sandlin, who has worked on a consultancy basis as a manager at
several
> InternationalStaff.net contract facilities in South Asia and the
> Persian Gulf, said that the biggest thing that Westerners fail to
> understand about South Asian call center workers and managers is how
> intently focused they are on meeting client expectations. This gives
> Indians and Pakistanis an advantage over competitors elsewhere.
>
> Freshers and Culture Shock
> Freshers entering a call center usually have little or no experience
> dealing with members of the opposite sex outside of family settings.
> Single-sex secondary schools and colleges are the norm for many
people
> in India. They do not know how to relate to other people in a work
> environment. They lack work interaction skills, having only been
> exposed to family and school environments. They are excited but
uneasy
> about their new employment opportunity.
>
> Tara reports that both freshers and senior staff are very respectful
to
> her. If they do not want her to know the topic of conversation, they
> will speak in a language other than English. In her workplace, there
> are often conversations going on around her in four different
> languages. In both India and Pakistan, the language of business is
> English.
>
> Recruiting and Retaining Women
> Families might discourage young women from working at call centers at
> night, except at well-known firms. Retention of both male and female
> workers is becoming an issue at call centers throughout India.
>
> Women leave call center jobs to pursue higher education or for
> marriage, Tara said. If a female call center employee marries, Tara
> worries that her new family might not allow her to continue working,
> especially at night. If a man marries, Tara knows that he will be
back
> at work again in two or three ws.
>
> As we contribute to changes in South Asian societies, those societies
> are contributing to changes within our own society as well.
>
> Tara Bradford, in her role as an American woman in a South Asian call
> center, is helping bridge two economies and two cultures. She is also
> promoting American customer service standards for both U.S. programs
> and the domestic Indian inbound programs that are increasingly being
> taken up by IT firms offshore.


Wow, what a piece of crap, paid for, pandering advertisment for
outsourcing.

Women are so venerated in India that in the lower middle and poorer
areas of India there a sonigram clinics so that if a women finds out
that the sex of her  child to be will be female she can have it
aborted...

They don't mention that Tara will remain an outcaste (even though caste
is supposed to be outlawed) unless perhaps she marries and what Indian
would want to marry her without a big fat dowry.

Thundercleets


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Thundercleets
12-08-04 08:56 PM


Re: American Woman Follows Her Job to India
"Tim Keating" <NotForJunkEmail@directinternet11.com1> wrote in message
 news:fn7er09g7rkptcqjp9fetdb2s2gjj3o1g5@
4ax.com...
> On 7 Dec 2004 19:25:28 -0800, "Your Special Friend"
> <ysf001@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>
> Only in India she, can get a refreshing soda laced with pesticides.
>
>
> "Coke, Pepsi may have to apply warning labels in India"
> http://www.usatoday.com/money/indus...oke-pepsi_x.htm
>
> here are some excerpts.
>
> "Coca-Cola and PepsiCo said Tuesday that a court ruling in India means
> they may soon have to put labels on bottles and cans there warning of
> pesticide residues in their fizzy drinks."


This is a setback for population control in India.

Breeding like rabbits. At least China has dome something about their problem
while the rabbit country encourages.


>
> "Last August, tests by an environmental group, Center for Science and
> Environment, found pesticide residues many times the European limits
> in 12 samples of beverages made by Coke and Pepsi."
>
> "The center said tests conducted by its Pollution Monitoring
> Laboratory showed cold drink brands sold by the firms in India
> contained four toxic pesticides and insecticides: lindane, DDT,
> malathion and chlorpyrifos."



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TheWanderer
12-09-04 01:57 AM


Re: American Woman Follows Her Job to India
In article <1102545980. e109a0f2856cf98b0fc4089910f40482@teranew
s>,
nobody@spamcop.net says...
>
> "Tim Keating" <NotForJunkEmail@directinternet11.com1> wrote in message
>  news:fn7er09g7rkptcqjp9fetdb2s2gjj3o1g5@
4ax.com... 
> Breeding like rabbits. At least China has dome something about their probl
em
> while the rabbit country encourages.

Too late for that.

It is this huge population of the two countries, increasingly more
assertive and confident, that will do your country in.

You will be lucky if your children make even 1/3rd of what you do.

And judging from your comments, you do not make much money to begin
with. You have that defeated and hopeless tone in your comments.

Good luck.



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Andrei Vlasov
12-09-04 01:57 AM


Re: American Woman Follows Her Job to India
Tim Keating wrote:
> On 7 Dec 2004 19:25:28 -0800, "Your Special Friend"
> <ysf001@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> snip..
>
> 
>
>
> big snip..
>
> Only in India she, can get a refreshing soda laced with pesticides.
>

Minor correction:
Onlu in India, the "American" MNCs are caught making refreshing soda
laced with pesticides.

>
> "Coke, Pepsi may have to apply warning labels in India"
> http://www.usatoday.com/money/indus...oke-pepsi_x.htm
>
> here are some excerpts.
>
> "Coca-Cola and PepsiCo said Tuesday that a court ruling in India means
> they may soon have to put labels on bottles and cans there warning of
> pesticide residues in their fizzy drinks."
>
> "Last August, tests by an environmental group, Center for Science and
> Environment, found pesticide residues many times the European limits
> in 12 samples of beverages made by Coke and Pepsi."
>
> "The center said tests conducted by its Pollution Monitoring
> Laboratory showed cold drink brands sold by the firms in India
> contained four toxic pesticides and insecticides: lindane, DDT,
> malathion and chlorpyrifos."

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§§ Blue Ice §§
12-09-04 08:55 AM


Re: American Woman Follows Her Job to India
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 09:08:20 +0700, §§ Blue Ice §§
<Blue_Ice@spamcop.gov> wrote:

>Tim Keating wrote: 
>
>Minor correction:
>Onlu in India, the "American" MNCs are caught making refreshing soda
>laced with pesticides.

Hindu-cola is better thats why your retarded behavior.
hare om baba hare om
> 


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Gulshan Khan (wada Sain)
12-09-04 08:55 AM


Re: American Woman Follows Her Job to India
And what has that got to do about her job. You think those things don't
happen in the old US? Dream on!

Tim Keating wrote:

>On 7 Dec 2004 19:25:28 -0800, "Your Special Friend"
><ysf001@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>snip..
>
>
> 
>
>big snip..
>
>Only in India she, can get a refreshing soda laced with pesticides.
>
>
>"Coke, Pepsi may have to apply warning labels in India"
>http://www.usatoday.com/money/indus...oke-pepsi_x.htm
>
>here are some excerpts.
>
>"Coca-Cola and PepsiCo said Tuesday that a court ruling in India means
>they may soon have to put labels on bottles and cans there warning of
>pesticide residues in their fizzy drinks."
>
>"Last August, tests by an environmental group, Center for Science and
>Environment, found pesticide residues many times the European limits
>in 12 samples of beverages made by Coke and Pepsi."
>
>"The center said tests conducted by its Pollution Monitoring
>Laboratory showed cold drink brands sold by the firms in India
>contained four toxic pesticides and insecticides: lindane, DDT,
>malathion and chlorpyrifos."
>
>



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ajv2003
12-09-04 08:55 AM


Re: American Woman Follows Her Job to India
Gulshan Khan (wada Sain) wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 09:08:20 +0700, §§ Blue Ice §§
> <Blue_Ice@spamcop.gov> wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> Hindu-cola is better thats why your retarded behavior.
> hare om baba hare om

wada paw...
setting up porkistan jihad cells in canada

> 
>
>

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§§ Blue Ice §§
12-09-04 08:55 AM


Re: American Woman Follows Her Job to India
Thundercleets wrote:

>
>
>
>Wow, what a piece of crap, paid for, pandering advertisment for
>outsourcing.
>
>Women are so venerated in India that in the lower middle and poorer
>areas of India there a sonigram clinics so that if a women finds out
>that the sex of her  child to be will be female she can have it
>aborted...
>
>They don't mention that Tara will remain an outcaste (even though caste
>is supposed to be outlawed) unless perhaps she marries and what Indian
>would want to marry her without a big fat dowry.
>
>Thundercleets
>
>
>
Yes, and in your world, she should keep it wheather she likes it or not,
right?

You missing the point, she loves her career and her surroundings more than
what she had to look forward to at home. Like flipping burgers and cleaning
hotel rooms.


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