how is smalltalk doing? been away for a long time.

I have been away from Smalltalk for a long time. Smalltalk is my favorite
language and I enjoyed working with it. I am always disappointed when I have
to do some programming in another language. I think to myself, 'I could do
this a lot faster in Smalltalk'.

So, how are things going in this part of the world? Is there a growing
Smalltalk following? What is the major dialect?

The reason I am asking is we are getting ready to start a new project and I
am looking for a programming language to use. The product will be client
based for the first version but may be web based in the future.

While I am on the subject, are there any Object databases worth using or
should I stick with relational?

Another on the subject question, are any of the old-timers from '92-'96
hanging around here? I really miss those guys.

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Fred Parker
Lynn Consulting Group, L.L.C.
http://www.lynnconsultinggroup.com
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On 12-Oct-2004, "fp" <etickettwothousand@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Another on the subject question, are any of the old-timers from '92-'96
> hanging around here? I really miss those guys.

I'm pretty sure everyone who remembers the CompuServ Smalltalk forum is
dead, including me.

> So, how are things going in this part of the world? Is there a growing
> Smalltalk following? What is the major dialect?

My subjective opinion: there is a slow but steady growth in Smalltalk, after
a disturbingly long lull.

<...>
> While I am on the subject, are there any Object databases worth using or
> should I stick with relational?

Our production system runs on GemStone/S ... it's solid.

> Another on the subject question, are any of the old-timers from '92-'96
> hanging around here? I really miss those guys.

Well, I've been lurking since '90 ;-)
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Bob Nemec
Northwater Objects

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 02:29:40 GMT, "fp"
<etickettwothousand@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I have been away from Smalltalk for a long time. Smalltalk is my favorite
>language and I enjoyed working with it. I am always disappointed when I hav
e
>to do some programming in another language. I think to myself, 'I could do
>this a lot faster in Smalltalk'.
>
>So, how are things going in this part of the world? Is there a growing
>Smalltalk following? What is the major dialect?
>
>The reason I am asking is we are getting ready to start a new project and I
>am looking for a programming language to use. The product will be client
>based for the first version but may be web based in the future.
>
>While I am on the subject, are there any Object databases worth using or
>should I stick with relational?
>
>Another on the subject question, are any of the old-timers from '92-'96
>hanging around here? I really miss those guys.
Hi there. Well I have been hanging out sing the old Compuserve days.
Nice to see you back.

Go for Smalltalk - its the best way forward. We are using it at the
moment for a client side diary management system that talks pretty
seamlessly to our web based booking package. VAST makes most of this
easy. To bang our own trupmet a bit, we use our own SocketSet product
for the TCP/IP comms and our Tenacity OODB for the database.

You might just like to see what we do with Smalltalk - it's all at
http://www.totallyobjects.com.

Regards

David

> I'm pretty sure everyone who remembers the CompuServ Smalltalk forum

I remember that one! I really enjoyed it, being all high tech and such in a
shop that was all mainframe except for the application I developed.

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Fred Parker
Lynn Consulting Group, L.L.C.
http://www.lynnconsultinggroup.com
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David,

I seem to remember the name and I am sure we have chatted at some point
along the line. Nice to hear there are still production Smalltalk apps.

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Fred Parker
Lynn Consulting Group, L.L.C.
http://www.lynnconsultinggroup.com
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"fp" <etickettwothousand@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> While I am on the subject, are there any Object databases worth using or
> should I stick with relational?
>
> Another on the subject question, are any of the old-timers from '92-'96
> hanging around here? I really miss those guys.
>
> --
> ******************************
> Fred Parker
> Lynn Consulting Group, L.L.C.
> http://www.lynnconsultinggroup.com
> ******************************
>
>
Hi Fred,

VOSS has been continuously available since the carefree CompuServe days...
Version 3.0 is available for VAST; more info on http://www.logicarts.com

John
Logic Arts Ltd
http://www.logicarts.com

Same here. I have last used Smalltalk in 2000. Most of the companies in
South Africa uses Java. Developers that I work with know very little of
Smalltalk. It is a shame.