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Programming Forum and web based access to our favorite programming groups.Windows XP Service Pack 2 Customer Support Diagnostics Tools (English) is on the MSDN subdcribers download site. What is it? The description given isn't very helpful.
Post Follow-up to this messageIf you need help from PSS then they may ask you to use some of those tools At least, that's my understanding of it -- --Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server - IIS, Virtual PC] http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step tutorial site :-) http://vpc.visualwin.com - Does <insert OS name> work on VPC 2004? Find out here Only reply by newsgroup. I do not do technical support via email. Any emails I have not authorized are deleted before I see them. "Dennis Grinberg" <dgrin_bli_luef@bli_luef.bellatlantic.net> wrote in message news:eLa3jn%23fEHA.644@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > Windows XP Service Pack 2 Customer Support Diagnostics Tools (English) is on > the MSDN subdcribers download site. What is it? The description given isn't > very helpful. > >
Post Follow-up to this messageThe short answer is: If you have to ask, you don't need it. But if you really, really want an explanation... Essentially, this provides symbolic debugging tools along with the debug symbols for the SP2 build of Windows XP. Symbols are basically human-readable labels for binary addresses and values. They are generated during compile and link of low-level programming like in C, assembler, and machine language. In the absense of symbols, you'd typically be staring at hex dumps with no context, until your eyes fall out. The symbols for XP are commonly used in 2 situations: 1. They can be used in the debugging/testing of device drivers. Typically, however, device driver programmers would get them from the DDK rather than from this disc. 2. They can be used for troubleshooting of ultra-critical apps/systems. It's hard to explain what I mean by ultra-critical because everybody thinks they've got "mission-critical" stuff, and everybody likes to use the word "enterprise," but there are probably less than 0.00001% of all Windows systems in the world where a blue-screen or protection fault needs to get properly debugged even if it means analyzing a 2GB full memory dump or tracing thru low-level opcodes, because there simply is no choice. For the other 99.99999% of us who run into problems we can't solve, we typically click around for a while, screw with the registry, then give up and reinstall everything. Or we might give up on an old app/driver and upgrade it to the latest version from the vendor. Or we finally decide to get rid of an old piece of hardware and replace it with a newer equivalent. Or we'd find some other workaround, thru trial & error and/or Google which gets us past the problem. Some people might even resort to leaving Windows for a different OS, or performing a task manually. It's not that the tough problems couldn't eventually be figured out, just that most people in most situations aren't willing/able to do whatever it might take, especially if there are "good enough" options available. But there are some situations in the world where there are no workarounds good enough, and thus PSS sometimes resorts to symbolic debugging. I have never heard of this happening with anyone except Premier Support accounts (typically very large organizations) and even then it is rare. With Microsoft's Shared Source Initiative, certain businesses, governments, academic institutions, and even individuals (MVPs) have access to Windows source code which would theoretically make symbolic debugging practical/useful for them to perform themselves without PSS assistance, but again we're talking about a very limited percentage of the entire Windows-using population. In this particular case, you're asking about Windows XP, but there are Customer Support Diagnostics discs for all NT-based OS releases and service packs. In typical corporate environments, ultra-critical processing would probably tend to happen more on server OS products, but there are deployment scenarios and distributed app architectures where the client machine can be key. Field agents and catastrophe adjusters in the insurance industry come to mind as examples. Note that there are some low-level debugging tools which PSS can have you use, without you needing to have the Customer Support Diagnostics, so we're really talking about narrow, unusual circumstances when you might need this disc. "Dennis Grinberg" <dgrin_bli_luef@bli_luef.bellatlantic.net> wrote in message news:eLa3jn%23fEHA.644@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > Windows XP Service Pack 2 Customer Support Diagnostics Tools (English) is > on the MSDN subdcribers download site. What is it? The description given > isn't very helpful.
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