Re: OT: Racial superiority / Intelligent design was Re:

On 29 Jan, 23:51, "Judson McClendon" <ju...@sunvaley0.com> wrote:
> "Alistair" <alist...@ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote: 
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> A spirit is, by definition not part of the material universe.

By your definition alone. My definition would read something along the
lines of a bogus entity purported by some to survive death. Bogus
being the import word.

> God is Spirit.
> How would you prove, or disprove, using purely physical tools and
> techniques, something that is, by definition, not of the physical universe?[/color
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Again by your definition. My definition would read something along the
lines of a bogus entity purported by some to preced the start of the
universe and to survive the demise of the same universe. Bogus being
the import word.

You really should not resort to hiding your god in extra dimensions or
outside of the universe. By definition there is nothing outside of the
universe and the extra dimensions are so small that your god would
look ludicrous if he were measured.

> Even phrasing such a proposition requires is an a priori rejection of the
> Bible. Which is what I've been saying all along. You start by rejecting
> the Bible, then demand proof in a framework which already excludes the
> possibility. Disingenuous doesn't quite cover the deception inplicit in
> that. :-)
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I do reject the bible. I also reject the Grimm Fairy Tales. Neither
represents a solid base for living life.

Why should I, as an atheist, even contemplate the possibility of
playing the game by your rules? If god exists, and has made himself
known to you, then you will have empirical proof that he exists and we
can then examine with due scientific method your proof and deduce the
probability that god exists (or more likely doesn't).