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Programming Forum and web based access to our favorite programming groups.This morning I received an invitation from Fujitsu to attend the Oracle OpenWorld 07 event in San Francisco next month. I would go, but I'm far too busy at the moment. Nevertheless, it was interesting to see how Fujitsu are moving to SOA in partnership with Oracle and most of what's going on there is SOA oriented. As I looked through the agenda the following caught my eye... "Fujitsu is eco-friendly too! Fujitsu premieres the world's first laptop housing made from cornstarch (bio-based plastic). Come see it and our space-and energy-efficient PRIMERGY® TX120 tower server in the Eco-Friendly section of the Inside Innovation area at Oracle OpenWorld. " The latest notebook I have (Vaio AR250G - I call it Bigblack) is made from kevlar. Now, I don't know about you folks, but if I have a choice between cornstarch or kevlar, I think I'd prefer to have something that can stop a bullet for me, should the need arise... :-) Is this politically correct eco thing just getting silly, or have Fujitsu tapped into something that is really serious and important? Comments? Pete. -- "I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything."
Post Follow-up to this messagePete Dashwood wrote: > > Is this politically correct eco thing just getting silly...? Isn't that a redundant question? Actually, I'd say, no, it isn't "just getting" silly, it's *been* silly for a long time. But, the durability may not be a big deal to some people - I've known of at least 4 people who have laptops, and hardly ever (if that) take them out of the docking station. Think of the biodegradable laptop - better not spill any water on it! :) -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ / \/ _ o ~ Live from Albuquerque, NM! ~ ~ _ /\ | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Business E-mail ~ daniel @ "Business Website" below ~ ~ Business Website ~ http://www.djs-consulting.com ~ ~ Tech Blog ~ http://www.djs-consulting.com/linux/blog ~ ~ Personal E-mail ~ "Personal Blog" as e-mail address ~ ~ Personal Blog ~ http://daniel.summershome.org ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ GEEKCODE 3.12 GCS/IT d s-:+ a C++ L++ E--- W++ N++ o? K- w$ !O M-- V PS+ PE++ Y? !PGP t+ 5? X+ R* tv b+ DI++ D+ G- e h---- r+++ z++++ "Who is more irrational? A man who believes in a God he doesn't see, or a man who's offended by a God he doesn't believe in?" - Brad Stine
Post Follow-up to this message"Pete Dashwood" <dashwood@removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote in message news:5o78vfFl9t9vU1@mid.individual.net... > This morning I received an invitation from Fujitsu to attend the Oracle > OpenWorld 07 event in San Francisco next month. > > I would go, but I'm far too busy at the moment. > > Nevertheless, it was interesting to see how Fujitsu are moving to SOA in > partnership with Oracle and most of what's going on there is SOA oriented. > > As I looked through the agenda the following caught my eye... > > > "Fujitsu is eco-friendly too! > Fujitsu premieres the world's first laptop housing made from cornstarch > (bio-based plastic). Come see it and our space-and energy-efficient > PRIMERGY® TX120 tower server in the Eco-Friendly section of the Inside > Innovation area at Oracle OpenWorld. " > > The latest notebook I have (Vaio AR250G - I call it Bigblack) is made from > kevlar. > > Now, I don't know about you folks, but if I have a choice between > cornstarch or kevlar, I think I'd prefer to have something that can stop a > bullet for me, should the need arise... :-) > > Is this politically correct eco thing just getting silly, or have Fujitsu > tapped into something that is really serious and important? > > Comments? > > Pete. > -- > "I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything." > If the need arose, could you eat your kevlar-cased laptop? Bon Appetit!
Post Follow-up to this message"billious" <billious_1954@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:471edc57$0$12183$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com... > > "Pete Dashwood" <dashwood@removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote in message > news:5o78vfFl9t9vU1@mid.individual.net... > > If the need arose, could you eat your kevlar-cased laptop? Possibly... but I expect it would make me billious :-) > > Bon Appetit! > Thank you :-) (Funny thing... I accidentally dropped it about 3 feet onto a coffee table tonight... turned it on with fear and trepidation, having visions of months of work disappearing (yes, I normally back up current projects to DVD every wor so, But I've been ill lately so it is a few w
s since a backup....) it is functioning perfectly (and the first thing I did was back up the current project :-)). Don't know if it was the kevlar or if I was just lucky, but I guess it says something for SONY build quality... Betcha cornstarch would've shattered...popcorn!) Pete -- "I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything."
Post Follow-up to this messageOn 23 Oct, 22:55, "Pete Dashwood" <dashw...@removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote: > This morning I received an invitation from Fujitsu to attend the Oracle > OpenWorld 07 event in San Francisco next month. > > I would go, but I'm far too busy at the moment. > > Nevertheless, it was interesting to see how Fujitsu are moving to SOA in > partnership with Oracle and most of what's going on there is SOA oriented. > > As I looked through the agenda the following caught my eye... > > "Fujitsu is eco-friendly too! > Fujitsu premieres the world's first laptop housing made from cornstarch > (bio-based plastic). Come see it and our space-and energy-efficient > PRIMERGY=AE TX120 tower server in the Eco-Friendly section of the Inside > Innovation area at Oracle OpenWorld. " > > The latest notebook I have (Vaio AR250G - I call it Bigblack) is made from > kevlar. > > Now, I don't know about you folks, but if I have a choice between cornsta= rch > or kevlar, I think I'd prefer to have something that can stop a bullet for > me, should the need arise... :-) > > Is this politically correct eco thing just getting silly, or have Fujitsu > tapped into something that is really serious and important? > > Comments? > > Pete. > -- > "I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything." I doubt if the laptop casing, being made of a cornstarch polymer, is any more politically correct than the kevlar one that you own. Based on a position of total ignorance, my suspicion is that cornstarch polymers are no more bio-degradable than any other plastic. However, you can rest easy knowing that the source of the cornstarch is actively depleting the increased CO2 levels although the freight- miles would negate that gain and make it negligible in the overall equation.
Post Follow-up to this messageOn Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:39:40 -0700, Alistair <alistair@ld50macca.demon.co.uk > wrote: >On 23 Oct, 22:55, "Pete Dashwood" <dashw...@removethis.enternet.co.nz> >wrote: > >I doubt if the laptop casing, being made of a cornstarch polymer, is >any more politically correct than the kevlar one that you own. Based >on a position of total ignorance, my suspicion is that cornstarch >polymers are no more bio-degradable than any other plastic. Your suspicion is wrong, cornstarch 'plastic' IS biodegradable. The polymer is not synthesized from cornstarch. Starches (along with proteins and DNA) are natu ral polymers. Picture a starch molecule as several thousand paper clips hooked together, w here each paper clip represents a glucose molecule. >However, you can rest easy knowing that the source of the cornstarch >is actively depleting the increased CO2 levels although the freight- >miles would negate that gain and make it negligible in the overall >equation. Freight is a minor 10% of the energy equation -- 6,000 BTU per bushel contai ning 30 lbs of starch. Fertilizer is the greatest energy consumer. If we were smart, we'd m ake ethanol and plastic from grass and wood. We don't because there's no grass lobby cla moring for support.
Post Follow-up to this messageRobert wrote: > > Your suspicion is wrong, cornstarch 'plastic' IS biodegradable. The > polymer is not synthesized from cornstarch. Starches (along with > proteins and DNA) are natural polymers. Picture a starch molecule as > several thousand paper clips hooked together, where each paper clip > represents a glucose molecule. More's the pity. A plastic bag or Coke bottle is with us forever. Paper, carboard, etc., do degrade and leach the contents of their manufacturing process into the environment. Look at an empty box of Tide. Notice it's nifty eye-catching orange color? The orange color is made from Chromium. Oh well.
Post Follow-up to this messageRobert wrote: > On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:39:40 -0700, Alistair <alistair@ld50macca.demon.co. uk> wrote: > > > Your suspicion is wrong, cornstarch 'plastic' IS biodegradable. The polyme r is not > synthesized from cornstarch. Starches (along with proteins and DNA) are na tural polymers. > Picture a starch molecule as several thousand paper clips hooked together, where each > paper clip represents a glucose molecule. > > > Freight is a minor 10% of the energy equation -- 6,000 BTU per bushel cont aining 30 lbs of > starch. Fertilizer is the greatest energy consumer. If we were smart, we'd make ethanol > and plastic from grass and wood. We don't because there's no grass lobby c lamoring for > support. Obviously, you have not heard of Mark Emery. <G> Donald
Post Follow-up to this message"donald tees" <donaldtees@execulink.com> wrote in message news:joGdnQrvePmffbzanZ2dnUVZ_oPinZ2d@go lden.net... [snip] > Obviously, you have not heard of Mark Emery. <G> Oh, I've heard of him. Abrasive person - really rubs me up the wrong way.
Post Follow-up to this messageJudson McClendon wrote: > "HeyBub" <heybubNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote: > > Are we talking bumpers and bullets here? :-) Well, yeah. Ignoring wartime, of course.
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