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IF they can't write english don't answer
Guy's if they can't write in English dont' respond to the post. I have lost
many jobs to the non usa programmers who don't speak the language and can't
read the code let's not help them stick it to us.......................
rememmber if the transistor was a national secret the transistor radio would
have been made in the good ole U.S.A.



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ShadowFox
04-03-04 03:30 AM


Re: IF they can't write english don't answer
"ShadowFox" <me@email.com> wrote in message
news:NYobc.165326$Cb.1659753@attbi_s51...
> Guy's
-10   Improper use of possesive form; plural form required.
- 2    Comma missing following salutation

>if they can't write in English dont'
-6  apostrophe misplaced in contraction

>respond to the post. I have lost many jobs to the non usa programmers
-5 "USA" is an acronym and should be capitalized
-4  should use hyphen between 'non' and 'USA'
-8  'non-USA'  is not required adjective form
-10 singular article 'the'  used when referring to plural ('programmers')

>who don't speak the language and can't read the code let's not help them
stick it to us
-10  End of phrase or sentence following 'word 'code' not terminated by
semicolon or period and start of new sentence

> rememmber if the transistor was a national secret the transistor radio
would
-6 spelling error ('remember')

> have been made in the good ole U.S.A.
- colloquial form 'ole' inappropriate here (warning only).

Thank you for your timely reminder to be on the lookout for those lacking
skills in written English.

MCM




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Michael Mattias
04-03-04 01:30 PM


Re: IF they can't write english don't answer
In article <_pybc.50021$KB1.47401@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>,
Michael Mattias <michael.mattias@gte.net> wrote:

[snip]

>Thank you for your timely reminder to be on the lookout for those lacking
>skills in written English.

Hoi!  There are many of strangenesses found in the speakings to be heard
in such places... you are knowing of language called 'Cockney'?

DD


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docdwarf@panix.com
04-03-04 02:30 PM


Re: IF they can't write english don't answer
I am thinking that you have smacked him down much goodly.  Thank you,
Mr. Mattias, for providing schooling for his little protectionist behind.


In article <_pybc.50021$KB1.47401@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>,
"Michael Mattias" <michael.mattias@gte.net> wrote:

> "ShadowFox" <me@email.com> wrote in message
> news:NYobc.165326$Cb.1659753@attbi_s51... 
>  -10   Improper use of possesive form; plural form required.
> - 2    Comma missing following salutation
> 
> -6  apostrophe misplaced in contraction
> 
>  -5 "USA" is an acronym and should be capitalized
> -4  should use hyphen between 'non' and 'USA'
> -8  'non-USA'  is not required adjective form
> -10 singular article 'the'  used when referring to plural ('programmers')
> 
> stick it to us
> -10  End of phrase or sentence following 'word 'code' not terminated by
> semicolon or period and start of new sentence
> 
> would
> -6 spelling error ('remember')
> 
> - colloquial form 'ole' inappropriate here (warning only).
>
> Thank you for your timely reminder to be on the lookout for those lacking
> skills in written English.
>
> MCM

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Joe Zitzelberger
04-03-04 03:30 PM


Re: IF they can't write english don't answer
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:50:02 GMT, "Michael Mattias"
<michael.mattias@gte.net> enlightened us:

>"ShadowFox" <me@email.com> wrote in message
>news:NYobc.165326$Cb.1659753@attbi_s51... 
> -10   Improper use of possesive form; plural form required.
>- 2    Comma missing following salutation
> 
>-6  apostrophe misplaced in contraction
> 
> -5 "USA" is an acronym and should be capitalized
>-4  should use hyphen between 'non' and 'USA'
>-8  'non-USA'  is not required adjective form
>-10 singular article 'the'  used when referring to plural ('programmers')
> 
>stick it to us
>-10  End of phrase or sentence following 'word 'code' not terminated by
>semicolon or period and start of new sentence
> 
>would
>-6 spelling error ('remember')
> 
>- colloquial form 'ole' inappropriate here (warning only).
>
>Thank you for your timely reminder to be on the lookout for those lacking
>skills in written English.
>
>MCM
>
>

You shouldn't have responded to him/her/it.  Shame on you Michael for
helping "them ferigners" out ;)

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SkippyPB
04-03-04 05:30 PM


Re: IF they can't write english don't answer
<docdwarf@panix.com> wrote in message news:c4mcpo$d4n$1@panix1.panix.com...
> In article <_pybc.50021$KB1.47401@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>,
> Michael Mattias <michael.mattias@gte.net> wrote:
>
> [snip]
> 
>
> Hoi!  There are many of strangenesses found in the speakings to be heard
> in such places... you are knowing of language called 'Cockney'?

Cockney isn't a language.  Or a dialect.  It is a method.



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Hugh Candlin
04-03-04 07:30 PM


Re: IF they can't write english don't answer
In article <tHDbc.16728$vo5.515560@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
Hugh Candlin <no@spam.com> wrote:
>
><docdwarf@panix.com> wrote in message news:c4mcpo$d4n$1@panix1.panix.com...
 
>
>Cockney isn't a language.  Or a dialect.  It is a method.

This reminds me of what a lad I knew said, decades back, upon reading a
booklet of advertising-copy which had been attached to a bottle of a
Mexican beverage:

'Mezcal... a myth, a mystique, a way of life.'

DD


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docdwarf@panix.com
04-03-04 10:30 PM


Re: IF they can't write english don't answer
>Subject: Re: IF they can't write english don't answer
>From: SkippyPB swiegand@neo.rr.NOSPAM.com
>Date: 2004-04-03 11:07 Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <19ot6014qh1an6ftk12odua55flhj3fc30@4ax.com>
>
>On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:50:02 GMT, "Michael Mattias"
><michael.mattias@gte.net> enlightened us:
> 
>
>You shouldn't have responded to him/her/it.  Shame on you Michael for
>helping "them ferigners" out ;)

I don't understand the point you are trying to make.
Are you saying:
(1) Off-shoring does not exist?
(2) No U.S. jobs have been lost to off-shoring?
(3) Those U.S. citizens who remain employed in I.T. have done so because of
their massively superior intelligence and diligence?
(4) Every U.S. citizen who has been fired from an I.T. job has been so becau
se
of his obviously inferior intelligence or diligence?
(5) Any statement which could have emanated from racism should immediately
be angrily rejected, based on that possibility, without regard to any truth
it
might contain?

If you agree with any of those points, you are not thinking clearly.
The facts are clear:
U.S. companies are moving all I.T. jobs off-shore as fast they are able.
Not all the Indians are smarter, but they are all cheaper.  Not all the
Americans are stupider, but they are all more expensive.
The motivation is simple economics--it has absolutely nothing to do
with racism or patriotism, and it has little to do with competency.

Perhaps you meant to say that any person who cannot write with correct
spelling and punctuation should be ignored?  (Excluding, of course, those
who acquired their deficiency by accident of birth.)  I think that criterion
would eliminate 90 percent of everyone in I.T.

People who have held onto their jobs--primarily because they are
self-employed or because their employer does not have enough
know-how to find a suitable replacement overseas--invariably believe
that they have kept their jobs because they are brilliant.  This is not
true.  No matter how brilliant you are, there are, let me assure you,
at least ten people more brilliant than you among the two or three billion
people in Asia.  You guys are like turkeys in the turkey farm that
go around high-fiving each other when the axe chops off some
other turkey's head for Thanksgiving dinner, supposing that they
have cleverly outwitted the turkey farmer.

Instead of English critiques, please address the point raised:
American I.T. jobs are being lost to India, Pakistan, and China.  This
situation is not good for the individuals who lose their jobs.  Sooner
or later, it is not good for the governments who live off the taxes
paid by those individuals.

P.S. Your "possesive" does not poses enough "s"'s.


Ross
Vontay, Virginia
http://community.webshots.com/user/ross_klatte
http://www.geocities.com/foundlingfather/

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Ross Klatte
04-04-04 05:30 AM


Re: IF they can't write english don't answer
In article <20040403221105.16223.00000466@mb-m23.aol.com>,
klatteross@aol.commmm (Ross Klatte) wrote:
>
> I don't understand the point you are trying to make.
> Are you saying:
> (1) Off-shoring does not exist?
> (2) No U.S. jobs have been lost to off-shoring?
> (3) Those U.S. citizens who remain employed in I.T. have done so because o
f
>     their massively superior intelligence and diligence?
> (4) Every U.S. citizen who has been fired from an I.T. job has been so
> because
>     of his obviously inferior intelligence or diligence?
> (5) Any statement which could have emanated from racism should immediately
>     be angrily rejected, based on that possibility, without regard to any
>     truth
> it
>     might contain?

No, No, No, No and No.

> If you agree with any of those points, you are not thinking clearly.
> The facts are clear:
> U.S. companies are moving all I.T. jobs off-shore as fast they are able.
> Not all the Indians are smarter, but they are all cheaper.  Not all the
> Americans are stupider, but they are all more expensive.
> The motivation is simple economics--it has absolutely nothing to do
> with racism or patriotism, and it has little to do with competency.
>
> Perhaps you meant to say that any person who cannot write with correct
> spelling and punctuation should be ignored?  (Excluding, of course, those
> who acquired their deficiency by accident of birth.)  I think that criteri
on
> would eliminate 90 percent of everyone in I.T.
>
> People who have held onto their jobs--primarily because they are
> self-employed or because their employer does not have enough
> know-how to find a suitable replacement overseas--invariably believe
> that they have kept their jobs because they are brilliant.  This is not
> true.  No matter how brilliant you are, there are, let me assure you,
> at least ten people more brilliant than you among the two or three billion
> people in Asia.  You guys are like turkeys in the turkey farm that
> go around high-fiving each other when the axe chops off some
> other turkey's head for Thanksgiving dinner, supposing that they
> have cleverly outwitted the turkey farmer.
>
> Instead of English critiques, please address the point raised:
> American I.T. jobs are being lost to India, Pakistan, and China.  This
> situation is not good for the individuals who lose their jobs.  Sooner
> or later, it is not good for the governments who live off the taxes
> paid by those individuals.

If you only look at one side of the issue, the evil of outsourcing seems
obvious.

If you look at the other side: that other nations outsource to the USA
as well; and that people, freed of the need to perform the easily
outsourced tasks, can address themselves to even greater things.

There is always some discomfort for individuals -- just imagine how
badly the makers of buggy whips felt as the era of the auto emerged.
Would you rather give up the ease of your auto, or would you rather the
buggy whip manufacturers retooled, retrained and learned how to make
steering wheel covers?

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Joe Zitzelberger
04-04-04 07:30 AM


Re: IF they can't write english don't answer
ShadowFox wrote:
> Guy's if they can't write in English dont' respond to the post. I have los
t
> many jobs to the non usa programmers who don't speak the language and can'
t
> read the code let's not help them stick it to us.......................
> rememmber if the transistor was a national secret the transistor radio wou
ld
> have been made in the good ole U.S.A.
>
>

Without the Sumerians, you wouldn't be able to write and read... So,
if I get you, you prefer doing badly a job because you're American
rather than letting someone else (non-American) doing it better than
you do ?

Is my English right ? I speak french :s (don't tell my mom...)

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Julian
04-04-04 06:30 PM


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