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(OT) ET's computing language
http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/

'First of all, you wouldn't open up their hardware to find a CPU here, a=
nd  =

a data bus there, and some kind of memory over there. Their hardware  =

appeared to be perfectly solid and consistent in terms of material from =
=

one side to the other. Like a rock or a hunk of metal. But upon [much]  =

closer inspection, we began to learn that it was actually one big  =

holographic computational substrate - each "computational element"  =

(essentially individual particles) can function independently, but are  =

designed to function together in tremendously large clusters. I say its =
=

holographic because you can divide it up into the smallest chunks you wa=
nt  =

and still find a scaled-down but complete representation of the whole  =

system. They produce a nonlinear computational output when grouped. So 4=
=

elements working together is actually more than 4 times more powerful th=
an  =

1. Most of the internal "matter" in their crafts (usually everything but=
=

the outermost housing) is actually this substrate and can contribute to =
=

computation at any time and in any state. The shape of these "chunks" of=
=

substrate also had a profound effect on its functionality, and often  =

served as a "shortcut" to achieve a goal that might otherwise be more  =

complex.

So back to the language. The language is actually a "functional  =

blueprint". The forms of the shapes, symbols and arrangements thereof is=
=

itself functional. What makes it all especially difficult to grasp is th=
at  =

every element of each "diagram" is dependant on and related to every oth=
er  =

element, which means no single detail can be created, removed or modifie=
d  =

independently. Humans like written language because each element of the =
=

language can be understood on its own, and from this, complex expression=
s  =

can be built. However, their "language" is entirely context-sensitive,  =

which means that a given symbol could mean as little as a 1-bit flag in =
=

one context, or, quite literally, contain the entire human genome or a  =

galaxy star map in another. The ability for a single, small symbol to  =

contain, not just represent, tremendous amounts of data is another  =

counter-intuitive aspect of this concept. We quickly realized that even =
=

working in groups of 10 or more on the simplest of diagrams, we found it=
=

virtually impossible to get anything done. As each new feature was added=
,  =

the complexity of the diagram exponentially grew to unmanageable  =

proportions. For this reason we began to develop computer-based systems =
to  =

manage these details and achieved some success, although again we found =
=

that a threshold was quickly reached beyond which even the supercomputer=
s  =

of the day were unable to keep up. Word was that the extra-terrestrials =
=

could design these diagrams as quickly and easily as a programmer like  =

DocDwarf could write a Cobol program. It's humbling to think that even a=
=

network of supercomputers wasn't able to duplicate what they could do in=
=

their own heads. Our entire system of language is based on the idea of  =

assigning meaning to symbols. Their technology, however, somehow merges =
=

the symbol and the meaning, so a subjective audience is not needed. You =
=

can put whatever meaning you want on the symbols, but their behavior and=
=

functionality will not change, any more than a transistor will function =
=

differently if you give it another name.'
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Amazing nay?

jb







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JB
07-02-07 08:55 AM


Re: (OT) ET's computing language
On 2 Jul, 04:27, JB <hong...@videotron.ca> wrote:
> http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/
>
> 'First of all, you wouldn't open up their hardware to find a CPU here, an=
d =20
> a data bus there, and some kind of memory over there. Their hardware =20
> appeared to be perfectly solid and consistent in terms of material from =2
0
> one side to the other. Like a rock or a hunk of metal. But upon [much] =20
> closer inspection, we began to learn that it was actually one big =20
> holographic computational substrate - each "computational element" =20
> (essentially individual particles) can function independently, but are =20
> designed to function together in tremendously large clusters. I say its =2
0
> holographic because you can divide it up into the smallest chunks you wan=
t =20
> and still find a scaled-down but complete representation of the whole =20
> system.

Somebody has been reading too much science fiction. A better word to
use would have been fractal, not holographic.

> They produce a nonlinear computational output when grouped. So 4 =20
> elements working together is actually more than 4 times more powerful tha=
n =20
> 1.

I wonder how they overcame the need to control each device in relation
to the others. Four multicores on a chip does not produce four times
the output that one core does (because of the need to control the
cores).

> Most of the internal "matter" in their crafts (usually everything but =20
> the outermost housing) is actually this substrate and can contribute to =2
0
> computation at any time and in any state.

Perhaps Nasa should change it's design philosophy for future space
vehicles and make all spacecraft from recycled pcb boards.

> The shape of these "chunks" of =20
> substrate also had a profound effect on its functionality, and often =20
> served as a "shortcut" to achieve a goal that might otherwise be more =20
> complex.
>
> So back to the language. The language is actually a "functional =20
> blueprint". The forms of the shapes, symbols and arrangements thereof is =
20
> itself functional.

Sounds like ADA. So Cobol is dead after all.

> What makes it all especially difficult to grasp is that =20
> every element of each "diagram" is dependant on and related to every othe=
r =20
> element, which means no single detail can be created, removed or modified=
=20
> independently. Humans like written language because each element of the =2
0
> language can be understood on its own, and from this, complex expressions=
=20
> can be built. However, their "language" is entirely context-sensitive,

The word "Bollocks" is also context sensitive. You can take that any
way that you wish.
=20
> which means that a given symbol could mean as little as a 1-bit flag in =2
0
> one context, or, quite literally, contain the entire human genome or a =20
> galaxy star map in another.

Data compression that Winzip would be proud of.

> The ability for a single, small symbol to =20
> contain, not just represent, tremendous amounts of data is another =20
> counter-intuitive aspect of this concept. We quickly realized that even =2
0
> working in groups of 10 or more on the simplest of diagrams, we found it =
20
> virtually impossible to get anything done. As each new feature was added,=
=20
> the complexity of the diagram exponentially grew to unmanageable =20
> proportions. For this reason we began to develop computer-based systems t=
o =20
> manage these details and achieved some success, although again we found =2
0
> that a threshold was quickly reached beyond which even the supercomputers=
=20
> of the day were unable to keep up. Word was that the extra-terrestrials =2
0
> could design these diagrams as quickly and easily as a programmer like =20
> DocDwarf could write a Cobol program.

Some of us have long suspected that DD was an alien.

> It's humbling to think that even a =20
> network of supercomputers wasn't able to duplicate what they could do in =
20
> their own heads. Our entire system of language is based on the idea of =20
> assigning meaning to symbols. Their technology, however, somehow merges =2
0
> the symbol and the meaning, so a subjective audience is not needed. You =2
0
> can put whatever meaning you want on the symbols, but their behavior and =
20
> functionality will not change, any more than a transistor will function =2
0
> differently if you give it another name.'
>  =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D
>
> Amazing nay?
>
> jb
>

Clearly a load of twaddle but amusing reading none-the-less.


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