Re: The Lambda lambada...Why embedded SQL is becoming irrelevant and why you should s

"Richard" <riplin@Azonic.co.nz> wrote in message
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> On Mar 15, 1:56 am, "Pete Dashwood"
> <dashw...@removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote: 
> 
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> The point I was making is that there is a 'fashion' in languages.

Yes, there certainly is. That fashion often arises out of a new approach in
programming methodology. The video discusses the arrival of OO and visual
programming as giving rise to new languages and enhancements to old ones.
The forward direction for OO is functional programming and this is also
discussed, particularly with regard to Lamda expressions. (I found this very
interesting as I had not encountered these ideas before...). Hejlsberg sees
C# as the ideal platform for this, but then, he would say that :-)


In
> the 70s BASIC was where many systems were written. Not just Apple II
> and BBC but DEC systems were written in BASIC.

Yes, I remember writing BASIC on a PDP 8... :-)

>
> In the 80s it was Pascal, and especially Turbo Pascal, but many other
> varieties.  Then Visual Basic, then C++, then Java, now C#. Next year
> it may be something else.

Apparently, functional programming. It certainly seems like a logical
extrapolation of the OO concepts.

> 
>
> Microsoft wanted a hammer to beat Java with so they 'bought' Anders
> from Borland.

I don't see Java going away any time soon... :-)

> 
>
> One of the alleged reasons that Vista took so long was that the
> released Vista is a quick rewrite based on 2003 kernal with some UI
> 'enhancements' and a bunch of bling copied from Apple OSX. This was
> necessary when it became obvious that they would never get the product
> they had been working on since before XP would ever work. This was
> Cairo, a rewrite of Windows to run on top of the .NET3 CLI. Allegedly
> written in C# it was supposed to be able to be ported to various
> processors including the Cell of XBox 360 so it could be used to make
> a Microsoft XPC.

Interesting, and certainly may have elements of truth.  It is, nonetheless,
hearsay.

A search of the web reveals that the Cairo project was dropped in 1996, long
before C#  or .NET3 were ever thought of

C# is designed to be portable. This is achieved by Interop services, the
same facility that allows me to run my existing COBOL code from within a C#
wrapper.

>
> I think that MS's confidence in C# may have suffered as they are now
> talking about 'the next Windows' as being continuation of Vista.

Sorry, I don't follow that... How does Vista affect C#? (C# code runs
managed under Vista just as it does with anything else.) Certainly there is
no sign of a confidence dip that I can detect form MS forums. On the
contrary, they have just opened  (within the last couple of ws, I
think...) a new facility designed to attract new programmers to both VB and
C#.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/beginner/

I would expect the "next Windows" to be a continuation of Vista. In fact I
believe all future Windows systems will be incarnations of Vista, until such
time as a total rewrite is carried out (if ever...).

Pete.