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Programming Forum and web based access to our favorite programming groups.The Nobel Prize of Mathematics, awarded every four years was refused by a Russian recluse who proved the Poincare conjecture, "topologically, a rabbit is the same as a sphere." Not a REAL rabbit, mind you, more like a chocolate rabbit; one with no holes. (Real rabbits have holes, several, as a matter of fact.) Grigory Perelman, the winner, will evidently join up with Bobby Fisher to form a dance team. http://abcnews.go.com/International...tory?id=2341460
Post Follow-up to this messageHeyBub wrote: > The Nobel Prize of Mathematics, awarded every four years was refused by a > Russian recluse who proved the Poincare conjecture, "topologically, a rabb it > is the same as a sphere." Not a REAL rabbit, mind you, more like a chocola te > rabbit; one with no holes. (Real rabbits have holes, several, as a matter of > fact.) > Real spheres do not carry RABBIT FLU. In the UK we have had a farmer killed by rabbit flu contracted by picking up a rabbit on his farm. > Grigory Perelman, the winner, will evidently join up with Bobby Fisher to > form a dance team. I doubt it. He is unemployed and lives in a Moscow flat with his mother. > > http://abcnews.go.com/International...tory?id=2341460 BTW, no-one has yet been able to confirm Perelman's proof but there are no significant flaws. He has previously refused a Maths prize awarded by the EU. He may also refuse the million bucks on offer from a Canadian institute as a bonus prize. Oh, and he is really polite. (Not that I know him, I picked it all up off of news.bbc.co.uk).
Post Follow-up to this message"HeyBub" <heybubNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message news:12emh9iiahr99d8@news.supernews.com... > The Nobel Prize of Mathematics, awarded every four years was refused by a > Russian recluse who proved the Poincare conjecture, "topologically, a > rabbit is the same as a sphere." Not a REAL rabbit, mind you, more like a > chocolate rabbit; one with no holes. (Real rabbits have holes, several, as > a matter of fact.) > > Grigory Perelman, the winner, will evidently join up with Bobby Fisher to > form a dance team. > > http://abcnews.go.com/International...tory?id=2341460 > > Dr. Grisha Perelman lives in a world most of us cannot imagine. He did not reject the Fields Medal out of arrogance; neither is he a "Whacko" (or "wacko"). He solved a problem and posted the solution on the internet four years ago. His intention was to make it publicly available, not to sfame, wealth, or kudos. (Had he wanted the latter he would have gone through the usual submission process to an established University.) He simply doesn't see the relevance of a million dollars or fame for doing something he would be doing anyway, and, in his universe, anything other than the exploration of multi-dimensional topologies is of little importance. Have a look at this... it is NOT a Press release where they s
to sensationalise behaviour they make no attempt to respect or understand: http://www.infoplease.com/spot/poincare-conjecture.html My own assessment is that he possibly will share some of the cash eventually, probably because it will improve the life of his mother. If this man is "wacko" mad, then it is a fine madness and the world could use some more of it... Pete.
Post Follow-up to this messageHeyBub wrote: > "topologically, a rabbit is the same as a sphere." Something that can be easily proved with a rabbit and your local garage's tire pump set to 100psi. > Not a REAL rabbit, Oops, mea culpa I should have read the whole message before rushing off to do the experiment.
Post Follow-up to this messageI'm allergic to chocolate. Could this same proof work on a marshmallow rabbit? Perhaps a rabbit from a box of animal crackers. Then I would not have to wait until Easter. Alternatively, super glue and duct tape exist. A rabbit does not have to have holes. Further, must it be a rabbit? The "famed" object of an old magicians hat trick? Why not another animal? Does it state in this proof that is must be a mammal? I'd love to take some duct tape and super glue to that damned Geico lizard. I'd save even more on my car insurance if those monsters (expletive replaced) wouldn't waste so much money on advertising! Finally, I think I could talk my boss into volunteering for such an experiment if he were promised that he could eat the chocolate after the conclusion of the test. You'll need about 325 pound of rude,chocolate to balance the equation. Give it some though. Get back to me. Wolf! "HeyBub" <heybubNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message news:12emh9iiahr99d8@news.supernews.com... > The Nobel Prize of Mathematics, awarded every four years was refused by a > Russian recluse who proved the Poincare conjecture, "topologically, a > rabbit is the same as a sphere." Not a REAL rabbit, mind you, more like a > chocolate rabbit; one with no holes. (Real rabbits have holes, several, as > a matter of fact.) > > Grigory Perelman, the winner, will evidently join up with Bobby Fisher to > form a dance team. > > http://abcnews.go.com/International...tory?id=2341460 > > >
Post Follow-up to this messageAlbino Timberwolf wrote: > I'm allergic to chocolate. Could this same proof work on a marshmallow > rabbit? Perhaps a rabbit from a box of animal crackers. Then I would > not have to wait until Easter. > > Alternatively, super glue and duct tape exist. A rabbit does not have > to have holes. > > Further, must it be a rabbit? The "famed" object of an old magicians > hat trick? Why not another animal? Does it state in this proof that > is must be a mammal? I'd love to take some duct tape and super glue > to that damned Geico lizard. I'd save even more on my car insurance > if those monsters (expletive replaced) wouldn't waste so much money > on advertising! Yes, a rabbit is required. The "Schrodinger's cat" hypothesis just wouldn't work if it were promoted as "Schrodinger's Star-nosed Mole" ( http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/fe...0_feature2.html ).
Post Follow-up to this messagePete Dashwood wrote: > > Dr. Grisha Perelman lives in a world most of us cannot imagine. He > did not reject the Fields Medal out of arrogance; neither is he a > "Whacko" (or "wacko"). He solved a problem and posted the solution on > the internet four years ago. His intention was to make it publicly > available, not to sfame, wealth, or kudos. (Had he wanted the > latter he would have gone through the usual submission process to an > established University.) He simply doesn't see the relevance of a > million dollars or fame for doing something he would be doing anyway, > and, in his universe, anything other than the exploration of > multi-dimensional topologies is of little importance. Exactly. Certifiable, head-to-the-lab whacko. [...] > If this man is "wacko" mad, then it is a fine madness and the world > could use some more of it... And deprive so many of the joy of giving? Seriously, though, the absense of greed is symptomatic of significant pathological disease or defect. No, if he liked doing what he was doing anyway, his thought processes are seriously flawed if he did not realize he could do more of it, or do it better, with $1 million in his pocket.
Post Follow-up to this messageRichard wrote: > HeyBub wrote: > > > Something that can be easily proved with a rabbit and your local > garage's tire pump set to 100psi. Presumably, if stuck in the oral or nasal orifices/interstices then the gas would leak out of the other interstice. If stuck in the anal interstice then I would presume that the gas would leak out of both nasal and oral interstices. A rabbit and a sphere are not topologically equivalent but a rabbit and a cardboard tube are topologically equivalent. > > > Oops, mea culpa I should have read the whole message before rushing off > to do the experiment.
Post Follow-up to this messageAlistair wrote: > Presumably, if stuck in the oral or nasal orifices/interstices then the > gas would leak out of the other interstice. And at a 100psi it acts like a blunderbuss with bird shot.
Post Follow-up to this message"HeyBub" <heybubNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message news:12eom1tan2be0be@news.supernews.com... > Pete Dashwood wrote: > > Exactly. Certifiable, head-to-the-lab whacko. > :-) Sure, Jerry... He didn't have the advantage of being born and raised into a capitalist consumer society, so it is no wonder his thouht processes are a little off the beam... :-) > [...] > > > And deprive so many of the joy of giving? > > Seriously, though, the absense of greed is symptomatic of significant > pathological disease or defect. Really? If we're being serious (and I doubt we are :-)), and having spent a goodly portion of my life acquainting myself with tomes on psychology and human behaviour, having observed said behaviours at first hand in various cultures and countries over many years, and not being averse to thinking, or incapable of drawing conclusions from observations made, I have not found the statement above to be true. Perhaps you could help me remedy this possible omission in my education by giving a cite for it? :-) While greed, like most traits, CAN have beneficial effects, the absence of it does not imply any kind of defect. In fact, for some of us, being driven by greed is simply stressful and counter productive. Despite what Michael Douglas said in "Wall Street", greed is, overall, NOT good. You are suggesting treating cancer with herpes simplex 2. The virus may attack certain kinds of cancer, but, given the choice, most people would probably prefer not to have it... Greed, on balance, is best avoided. >No, if he liked doing what he was doing anyway, his thought processes are >seriously flawed if he did not realize he could do more of it, or do it >better, with $1 million in his pocket. How exactly does the amount of money I have, improve my programming ability? Or improve my ability to think generally? OK, if I was starving or didn't have the basic nutritional requirements, my health could deteriorate to the point where my thought processes might suffer, but given that the needs for health are met, what improvement in my mental or spiritual (if you believe in such things) growth, does having more money afford? In my life I've been rich and I've been poor. (I mean 'poor'... no food, no shelter, no work, no assets, didn't speak the language, and only the clothes I stood up in. While I value that experience, I wouldn't want to do it again, and I could easily have lived without it....) Rich may be better from a material comfort standpoint, it doesn't have any bearing whatsoever on who I am or what or how I think. These days I expect to be fed, clothed and sheltered, I expect to enjoy myself and have time for the things that interest me; not quite to the same degree as Grisha Perelman, but I can certainly relate to his mindset. (And I expect to provide these things for myself, and not as a handout from Government or friends...) Dr. Perelman has an environment that affords him the necessities (for him) and it is enough for him. His absence of greed is not a defect; it is something he simply has no place for. Pete.
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