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WerWer

2006-04-15, 7:06 pm

Greeting to all,

I am registering in a big company where they need to have our company
QA procedure to complete registration. Actually we need to have a plane
& procedure for our reference & use.
Any advice??

by the way we are web development company.

B.R.

Phlip

2006-04-15, 7:06 pm

WerWer wrote:

> I am registering in a big company where they need to have our company
> QA procedure to complete registration. Actually we need to have a plane
> & procedure for our reference & use.
> Any advice??


If this company has their act together, then they expect to _delay_ feature
requests from you until they know what they want. At that time, they will
know how to request the smallest batch of new features that they know they
can make use of. You will then be expected to return that batch, within a
w, and with copious automated tests.

Such "lean" companies must use lean vendors, otherwise you will slow them
down.

If, however, this company does not practice "lean" processes, then maybe
their boss has decreed that "quality is job one". Managers are required to
demand quality of their vendors, so any old plan will do.

You could learn to write automated unit tests for web projects. (With Watir
or Selenium it's actually very easy.) Then you could practice Test Driven
Development, and you could honestly tell them "we never write any code
without an automated unit test".

That would work very well for both cases, but you risk showing them up.

--
Phlip
[url]http://www.greencheese.org/ZLand[/url] <-- NOT a blog!!!


Jose Cornado

2006-04-16, 4:06 am

Just go back and ask them what's their standard way of doing things.

If you happen to choose/use X and they use Y then you are in trouble
because they may withhold payment until the problem is fixed.

They are bigger than you and they can afford resources in not so
meaningful overhead.

If they have not told you or given you the protocol of how things are
going to happen/work you are already in trouble because that big
company is not very well organized.

So before you plunge into anything that may or may not work for you ask
the vendor about: how they write plans, build and testing schedules,
which technology and metodologies they use.

This way both would be talking the same language.

HTH

WerWer

2006-04-16, 4:06 am

Thanks for replying,

I cannot get any thing from them because they assume that we have our
own standards and QA procedure & plane. what I really need is a manual
that can be copied and maybe modified to be submitted.

B.R.

Jose Cornado

2006-04-16, 4:06 am

It's going to be really hard for you guys because you want to submit a
manual that you do not actually use and you do not know how you are
expected to work and interact with your customer.

You do not have schedules of any sort, procedures, contact person to
resolve features, bugs or discrepancies.

Have you won the bid? if not ask them these questions to show that you
want things to go as smoothly as possible for them:

Which build system do they use?

Are they using QTP, Rational, Xunit or something developed internally,
if so could you use it?

Which kind of reports do they want?

Think of this as designing an interface. The way things are designed
internally is irrelevant.

WerWer

2006-04-16, 4:06 am

Thanks again,

this is what they have asked me for:
QUALITY ASSURANCE/CONTROL PROCEDURES

I didnt win a project yet, but I am in my way to have one.
any idea??

Jose Cornado

2006-04-16, 4:06 am

First question: do you have them?

what they are asking you is for a marketing ptich. You could use buzz
words but most likely they will weed the noise out.

You could say that you practice XP programming, use QTP, automated
tests, Rational tools, or Bill Gates advises you, etc.

But a lot of people practice and use those, and there are a lot of
failed companies. You do the math.

Make your pitch and when push come to shove try to deliver. This will
keep them happy and doing business with you.

Good luck!

Michael Bolton

2006-04-16, 8:09 am

>I cannot get any thing from them because they assume that we have our
own standards and QA procedure & plane. what I really need is a manual
that can be copied and maybe modified to be submitted.

If you're asking us to help you to submit a manual that you don't
follow for procedures and plans that you don't have, can you see where
that might represent an ethical problem for some of us?

---Michael B.

ncix007

2006-04-17, 4:10 am

you can plan your testing plan and standard. but you should decide the
best tool for the
testing either system testing or runtime

suvrab@gmail.com

2006-04-25, 10:05 pm

Whta kind of testing you are bidding for? Based on that your test
strategy, plan, schedule everything will change. And, mate sorry to
mention this, if you already don't have any QTP and test Practice and
Procedures in place, you'll have a hard tme. As Michael explained,
etically no one can supply you the details you are lloking for!

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