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BZ

2006-05-24, 7:11 pm

Hi!

I'm currently using the minionpro and mnsymbol packages for my PhD thesis.
The fonts look very nice, thanks to everyone who made this possible.

I've got a few small issues though:

I'm not very satisfied with the integral signs. Without the [minionint]
option to MnSymbol, the integral sign looks very plain and out of
place. With the [minionint] option, on the other hand, the integral
sign fits better with the rest of the font, but it seems to be a bit
too bold; also the kerning of the upper integration boundary is bad.
I'd prefer to use a less bold version of the [minionint] integral sig,
and fix the kerning somehow. Does anyone have an idea on how to do
that (if at all possible)?

The second issue I'm having, are a few missing symbols in the MnSymbol
packages. Specifically, I'd like to use \lesssim and \gtrsim, both of
which are currently undefined in the MnSymbol package.
I guess it should be possible to combine the < and > chars with a \sim
to get them; however, \kern and \lower, which I wanted to use to
combine them, don't seem to function in math mode. Could anyone point
me to an other way to make these chars?

Thanks for any comments!

--
BZ
Michael Zedler

2006-05-24, 7:11 pm

BZ schrieb:
> Hi!
>
> I'm currently using the minionpro and mnsymbol packages for my PhD thesis.
> The fonts look very nice, thanks to everyone who made this possible.
>
> I've got a few small issues though:
>
> I'm not very satisfied with the integral signs. Without the [minionint]
> option to MnSymbol, the integral sign looks very plain and out of
> place. With the [minionint] option, on the other hand, the integral
> sign fits better with the rest of the font, but it seems to be a bit
> too bold; also the kerning of the upper integration boundary is bad.
> I'd prefer to use a less bold version of the [minionint] integral sig,
> and fix the kerning somehow. Does anyone have an idea on how to do
> that (if at all possible)?


Concerning the [minionint] option:
Without opticals in displayed equation the MinionPro integral is indeed
slightly too bold. This cannot be changed, because you simply lack the
less bold ItDisp font.
Please provide a minimal example showing the bad placement of the upper
integration limit.

> The second issue I'm having, are a few missing symbols in the MnSymbol
> packages. Specifically, I'd like to use \lesssim and \gtrsim, both of
> which are currently undefined in the MnSymbol package.
> I guess it should be possible to combine the < and > chars with a \sim
> to get them; however, \kern and \lower, which I wanted to use to
> combine them, don't seem to function in math mode. Could anyone point
> me to an other way to make these chars?


Please repost this as well as the MnSymbol-integral decoration issue on
the mailing list; http://developer.berlios.de/projects/minionpro/.

Michael
BZ

2006-05-26, 7:10 pm

Michael Zedler wrote in comp.text.tex:
>
> Concerning the [minionint] option:
> Without opticals in displayed equation the MinionPro integral is indeed
> slightly too bold. This cannot be changed, because you simply lack the
> less bold ItDisp font.


Ah ok. So buying this
http://www.fonts.com/findfonts/detail.htm?pid=201878
additional font would solve that issue?

> Please provide a minimal example showing the bad placement of the upper
> integration limit.


See http://zoetekouw.net/Zooi/formula.png
The placement of the a is correct, but the b is too far to the left.
The code for this integral was simply:
4\pi{a^2} c_{\mathrm{s}} \int_{a}^{b} \mathrm{d}r

>
> Please repost this as well as the MnSymbol-integral decoration issue on
> the mailing list; http://developer.berlios.de/projects/minionpro/.


I will.

Thanks for your help so far.


--
BZ
Michael Zedler

2006-05-28, 7:14 pm

BZ schrieb:
> Michael Zedler wrote in comp.text.tex:
>
> Ah ok. So buying this
> http://www.fonts.com/findfonts/detail.htm?pid=201878
> additional font would solve that issue?


No, you need http://store.adobe.com/type/browser/P/P_1721.html, in
particular the Italic Display font. MinionPro.sty only supports the use
of the full opticals set, if you buy only ItDisp, you'll need to modify
the sty.
To get an idea how the integral looks like using ItDisp, please have a
look at minionpro.pdf.

>
> See http://zoetekouw.net/Zooi/formula.png
> The placement of the a is correct, but the b is too far to the left.
> The code for this integral was simply:
> 4\pi{a^2} c_{\mathrm{s}} \int_{a}^{b} \mathrm{d}r


Your setup is broken. The result should look like
http://www.hft.ei.tum.de/mz/tst.pdf.

Michael
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