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| Rich Hollenbeck 2006-02-26, 9:58 pm |
| I am currently running VB6 from Visual Studio 6 Enterprise Edition. I'm in
the middle of a download from Microsoft for the .NET Framework Version 2.0
Redistributable Package. What difference will that make, if any? Where do
I go to get, in a nutshell, information about what I'm getting myself into?
Oops! That massive file just finished downloading. I have about a dozen
other files I need to download, but I have no idea if this will even work.
I suppose I also need to learn a new language to get into the .NET thing.
Too complicated! I need to have somebody break it down for me. Am I
replacing my old Visual Studio for something new and different? I feel old
and retarded. What's so great about .NET? Somebody please give me a clue.
:-) I'm going in a zillion directions, and I beg forgiveness for my
scatterbrained approach here. I'm trying to install #develop but I needed
to get the .NET framework first. I don't even know what I'm doing.
Rich
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| Michael C 2006-02-27, 4:08 am |
| "Rich Hollenbeck" <richard.hollenbeck@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>I am currently running VB6 from Visual Studio 6 Enterprise Edition. I'm in
>the middle of a download from Microsoft for the .NET Framework Version 2.0
>Redistributable Package. What difference will that make, if any? Where do
>I go to get, in a nutshell, information about what I'm getting myself into?
>Oops! That massive file just finished downloading. I have about a dozen
>other files I need to download, but I have no idea if this will even work.
>I suppose I also need to learn a new language to get into the .NET thing.
>Too complicated! I need to have somebody break it down for me. Am I
>replacing my old Visual Studio for something new and different? I feel old
>and retarded. What's so great about .NET? Somebody please give me a clue.
>:-) I'm going in a zillion directions, and I beg forgiveness for my
>scatterbrained approach here. I'm trying to install #develop but I needed
>to get the .NET framework first. I don't even know what I'm doing.
When you download the free version I don't think you get an IDE at all. it
might be easier to purchase one of the express versions, they are cheap and
easy. Doing it all for free is more complicated I believe, you need to use
command lines to compile etc.
Michael
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| m.posseth 2006-02-27, 4:08 am |
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Nope Michael
# Develop has an ide and you can compile from it
if you want to switch to a free IDE # develop is pretty good
And you do not need anything more as the standard .Net requirments ( ADO ,
IE and framework )
regards
Michel Posseth
"Michael C" <nospam@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
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> "Rich Hollenbeck" <richard.hollenbeck@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> When you download the free version I don't think you get an IDE at all. it
> might be easier to purchase one of the express versions, they are cheap
> and easy. Doing it all for free is more complicated I believe, you need to
> use command lines to compile etc.
>
> Michael
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| Steve Richfie1d 2006-02-27, 4:08 am |
| Rich and Michael,
Why not go with VB-2005 and get the latest .NET along with a VB IDE?
Last I checked, it was all FREE (and gigantic).
Steve Richfie1d
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Michael C wrote:
> "Rich Hollenbeck" <richard.hollenbeck@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> When you download the free version I don't think you get an IDE at all. it
> might be easier to purchase one of the express versions, they are cheap and
> easy. Doing it all for free is more complicated I believe, you need to use
> command lines to compile etc.
>
> Michael
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| Michael C 2006-02-27, 4:08 am |
| "m.posseth" <posseth@planet.nl> wrote in message
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> Nope Michael
>
> # Develop has an ide and you can compile from it
What is #Develop? A MS thing?
Michael
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| m.posseth 2006-02-27, 4:08 am |
| Hello Michael
> What is #Develop? A MS thing?
No it is an opensource alternative
http://www.icsharpcode.net/Opensource/SD/
regards
Michel
"Michael C" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "m.posseth" <posseth@planet.nl> wrote in message
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> What is #Develop? A MS thing?
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> Michael
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| Michael C 2006-02-27, 4:08 am |
| "m.posseth" <michelp@nohausystems.nl> wrote in message
> No it is an opensource alternative
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> http://www.icsharpcode.net/Opensource/SD/
Ok, I was aware that free IDEs are available but I was talking about
microsoft.
Michael
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| Maybe you can tell what you are up to. What you want to do etc.
Different people like different things.
For me, I am not a C programmer but I am familier with Assembly Language
(6502 codes) since I grow up with the Apple 2 computer that uses BASIC and
Assembly Language together. I can (used to) type my program with Hex codes
with my bare hand for the Apple.
I think the whole .NET thing is more about 80% marketing. The people who
use your products will not give a damn on what you use anyway. But then
again, if you can drive a car, there is no point to ride a horse.
"Rich Hollenbeck" <richard.hollenbeck@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>I am currently running VB6 from Visual Studio 6 Enterprise Edition. I'm in
>the middle of a download from Microsoft for the .NET Framework Version 2.0
>Redistributable Package. What difference will that make, if any? Where do
>I go to get, in a nutshell, information about what I'm getting myself into?
>Oops! That massive file just finished downloading. I have about a dozen
>other files I need to download, but I have no idea if this will even work.
>I suppose I also need to learn a new language to get into the .NET thing.
>Too complicated! I need to have somebody break it down for me. Am I
>replacing my old Visual Studio for something new and different? I feel old
>and retarded. What's so great about .NET? Somebody please give me a clue.
>:-) I'm going in a zillion directions, and I beg forgiveness for my
>scatterbrained approach here. I'm trying to install #develop but I needed
>to get the .NET framework first. I don't even know what I'm doing.
>
> Rich
>
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| Bob Butler 2006-02-27, 7:12 pm |
| "boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> But then again, if you can drive a car, there is no point to ride a
> horse.
There is if you are not on paved roads.
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| Oooo..key...
If you can drive a Hummer, there is no point to ride a horse.
Hanaha!!!
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> There is if you are not on paved roads.
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| Michael C 2006-02-27, 7:12 pm |
| "boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Maybe you can tell what you are up to. What you want to do etc.
>
> Different people like different things.
>
> For me, I am not a C programmer but I am familier with Assembly Language
> (6502 codes) since I grow up with the Apple 2 computer that uses BASIC and
> Assembly Language together. I can (used to) type my program with Hex
> codes with my bare hand for the Apple.
I still type code with my bare hands......
Michael
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| Bob Butler 2006-02-27, 7:12 pm |
| "boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Oooo..key...
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> If you can drive a Hummer, there is no point to ride a horse.
Unless you can't get the fuel. There are many situations where a horse is
an effective choice just as there are many situations where VB6 is an
effective choice. Newer and/or more powerful is not always better.
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| You were not reading it correctly. I was typing "HEX" codes like this:
A6 03 C3 01 60, etc to program my Apple 2.
"Michael C" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> I still type code with my bare hands......
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> Michael
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| .... like beating a dead horse kinda horse? Hahaha!!!
"Bob Butler" <tiredofit@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Unless you can't get the fuel. There are many situations where a horse is
> an effective choice just as there are many situations where VB6 is an
> effective choice. Newer and/or more powerful is not always better.
>
> --
> Reply to the group so all can participate
> VB.Net: "Fool me once..."
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| Michael C 2006-02-27, 7:12 pm |
| "boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> You were not reading it correctly. I was typing "HEX" codes like this:
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> A6 03 C3 01 60, etc to program my Apple 2.
I read it perfectly. Did everyone else use gloves at the time?
Michael
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| Bob O`Bob 2006-02-27, 7:12 pm |
| boaz wrote:[color=darkred]
> Oooo..key...
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> If you can drive a Hummer, there is no point to ride a horse.
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> Hanaha!!!
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> "Bob Butler" <tiredofit@nospam.com> wrote in message
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I know of someone who's worth $billions, yet chooses to use many MANY times more
horses (and pack-mules) than Hummers. Doubtless you've even heard of him many times
in the news.
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| Cleanly, that person is not helping the economy by not wasting fuel (or
wasting anything). I bet he/she is the one who drive GM to the poor house,
and fire so many people, and move all the jobs to Mexico or India.
"Bob O`Bob" <filterbob@yahoogroups.com> wrote in message
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> boaz wrote:
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> I know of someone who's worth $billions, yet chooses to use many MANY
> times more
> horses (and pack-mules) than Hummers. Doubtless you've even heard of him
> many times
> in the news.
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| Ken Halter 2006-02-27, 7:12 pm |
| "boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> You were not reading it correctly. I was typing "HEX" codes like this:
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> A6 03 C3 01 60, etc to program my Apple 2.
Ignore the trolls. Clear thinking people know what you meant. fwiw, it was
6809's here. Haven't seen a 6502 for ages.
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DLL Hell problems? Try ComGuard - http://www.vbsight.com/ComGuard.htm
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| To be my surprise, many embeded controllers still use the 6502 and Z80.
One of my friends fixes trains for living. He told me that he needed to
learn the instruction sets for the Z80 to fix the controllers for the train.
But then again, these two processors are easy to program and very cheap to
buy.
P.S. How long will we keep all these out of topic posts?
"Ken Halter" <Ken_Halter@Use_Sparingly_Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Ignore the trolls. Clear thinking people know what you meant. fwiw, it was
> 6809's here. Haven't seen a 6502 for ages.
>
> --
> Ken Halter - MS-MVP-VB - Please keep all discussions in the groups..
> DLL Hell problems? Try ComGuard - http://www.vbsight.com/ComGuard.htm
> Freeware 4 color Gradient Frame? http://www.vbsight.com/GradFrameCTL.htm
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| Ken Halter 2006-02-28, 7:06 pm |
| "boaz" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> To be my surprise, many embeded controllers still use the 6502 and Z80.
> One of my friends fixes trains for living. He told me that he needed to
> learn the instruction sets for the Z80 to fix the controllers for the
> train. But then again, these two processors are easy to program and very
> cheap to buy.
>
> P.S. How long will we keep all these out of topic posts?
They're here for life.... or, until Google decides to
compact/compress/whatever it does to free some space. I know Google cleans
the archives once in a while. I used to have links to threads that discussed
some very common questions... links no longer work and threads are gone for
good (arghhh).
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Ken Halter - MS-MVP-VB - Please keep all discussions in the groups..
DLL Hell problems? Try ComGuard - http://www.vbsight.com/ComGuard.htm
Freeware 4 color Gradient Frame? http://www.vbsight.com/GradFrameCTL.htm
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