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what if Windows is public domain
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| Stumper 2005-01-05, 3:58 am |
| What will happen if Bill Gates put all Windows source codes
into the Public Domain?
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| Blinky the Shark 2005-01-05, 3:58 am |
| Stumper wrote:
> What will happen if Bill Gates put all Windows source codes
> into the Public Domain?
Hell will freeze over.
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Blinky Linux Registered User 297263
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| Stumper 2005-01-05, 8:57 am |
| I just had a strange dream:
Bill Gates was hit by a lightening and realized he has been
selfish. He immediately fired all his employees but gave
all of them "the independent means" literally millions of
dollars each. He then released the source codes of all his
software programs into the Public Domain. He is going to
develop an educational program for children for the rest of
his life all by himself. He is not going to boss anybody
around any more!
In the history books, that day is celebrated as the
beginning of the "Open Source Epoch". They say from that day
productivity of the whole earth increased twice each year
and consumption of raw materials decreed 10% each year.
Now, nobody has to work or cry in pain any more! All this
thanks to Bill Gates getting hit by a lightening. The
number of religious people also increased a little.
Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Stumper wrote:
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> Hell will freeze over.
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| KHaled 2005-01-05, 8:57 am |
| Stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote in news:DGOdnWDQ--
uQ4EbcUSdV9g@ptd.net:
> What will happen if Bill Gates put all Windows source codes
> into the Public Domain?
Once the code is examined he would probably face major legal
action for having exposed the world to such hazards for so
long..
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| Dave Hinz 2005-01-05, 3:59 pm |
| On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 00:37:16 -0500, Stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote:
> What will happen if Bill Gates put all Windows source codes
> into the Public Domain?
You mean 'would happen', of course. My first thought is that the virus
writers would have a field day, because all of the security holes would
be there to exploit, and because the average 'doze user doesn't keep
up to date on patches.
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| Dave Hinz 2005-01-05, 3:59 pm |
| On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 02:53:12 -0500, Stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote:
> I just had a strange dream:
>
> In the history books, that day is celebrated as the
> beginning of the "Open Source Epoch". They say from that day
> productivity of the whole earth increased twice each year
> and consumption of raw materials decreed 10% each year.
Maybe you haven't noticed, but open source is doing just fine
without Gates as a contributor.
> Now, nobody has to work or cry in pain any more! All this
> thanks to Bill Gates getting hit by a lightening. The
> number of religious people also increased a little.
Er, yeah, right. Whatever. So, did you have an actual question
about open-source software?
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| Stumper 2005-01-05, 3:59 pm |
| Not much. I just use them. Thanks. I will be back if I get more curious. I am not baiting you. Just wanna know "your" perception of the matter (or fantasy?) The Public Domain part will be reality in about 100 years. At that time, of course, the cod
es will have only some historic value.
Dave Hinz wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 02:53:12 -0500, Stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote:
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> Maybe you haven't noticed, but open source is doing just fine
> without Gates as a contributor.
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> Er, yeah, right. Whatever. So, did you have an actual question
> about open-source software?
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| Stumper 2005-01-05, 3:59 pm |
| Quite possible. Is it mathmatically or theoretically possible to make any operating system bug free?
KHaled wrote:
> Stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote in news:DGOdnWDQ--
> uQ4EbcUSdV9g@ptd.net:
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> Once the code is examined he would probably face major legal
> action for having exposed the world to such hazards for so
> long..
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| Stumper 2005-01-05, 3:59 pm |
| How long will it take to fix (almost) all security holes? Any wild guess will do. I am looking at this as a science fiction. How many knockoffs will come out, how fast? Any wild guess will do.
Dave Hinz wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 00:37:16 -0500, Stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote:
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> You mean 'would happen', of course. My first thought is that the virus
> writers would have a field day, because all of the security holes would
> be there to exploit, and because the average 'doze user doesn't keep
> up to date on patches.
>
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| Dave Hinz 2005-01-05, 3:59 pm |
| On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 11:18:20 -0500, Stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote:
> How long will it take to fix (almost) all security holes? Any wild guess will do. I am looking at this as a science fiction. How many knockoffs will come out, how fast? Any wild guess will do.
>
1. Please don't top-post, it XXXXs up the flow of conversation.
2. Hit enter once in a while, wouldja? 72 characters is a good
time to start thinking about that.
3. Who cares? It's windows. It's inherently b0rken and would need
a complete rewrite to be secure. Allegedly, that's what Longhorn
might be someday if they ever finish it.
4. Where are you going with all this?
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| Stumper 2005-01-05, 3:59 pm |
| 1. How did I manage to top-post anything? Everything looks fine
in my Thunderbird.
2. Sorry, I was playing with the width and forgot to set it.
3. You seem to know more about Windows than you think.
4. A science fiction.
Q: I use Linux quite often. Are you as antagonistic against
"Freeware Movement" as against Windows?
If you want to stop, kindly stop asking questions. Simply not
responding is the way.
Dave Hinz wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 11:18:20 -0500, Stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote:
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> 1. Please don't top-post, it XXXXs up the flow of conversation.
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> 2. Hit enter once in a while, wouldja? 72 characters is a good
> time to start thinking about that.
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> 3. Who cares? It's windows. It's inherently b0rken and would need
> a complete rewrite to be secure. Allegedly, that's what Longhorn
> might be someday if they ever finish it.
>
> 4. Where are you going with all this?
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| Dave Hinz 2005-01-05, 3:59 pm |
| On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:19:45 -0500, Stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote:
> 1. How did I manage to top-post anything? Everything looks fine
> in my Thunderbird.
You are top-posting, because your response is before what you're answering.
It makes quoting in any kind of context impossible, because my statement
that you're answering is way down below off by itself now, apart from
what it's being answered with.
> 3. You seem to know more about Windows than you think.
You have no idea of my experience, and I'm not interested in trading
resumes or having a dick-size-war about who has been using and
administering it for more decades.
> 4. A science fiction.
> Q: I use Linux quite often. Are you as antagonistic against
> "Freeware Movement" as against Windows?
Not at all. I make my living with open-source software. I'm trying
to understand what the hell you're trying to accomplish. I understand
Windows very, very well, which is why I prefer any alternative.
> If you want to stop, kindly stop asking questions. Simply not
> responding is the way.
I'm trying to figure out if your line of questioning is interesting
enough to spend time on, is all. Looks like "no".
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| Stumper 2005-01-05, 3:59 pm |
| Dave Hinz wrote:
> Stumper wrote:
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> You are top-posting, because your response is before what you're answering.
> It makes quoting in any kind of context impossible, because my statement
> that you're answering is way down below off by itself now, apart from
> what it's being answered with.
Sorry, I was  about 'top-posting'. I was thinking of
thread hijacking. I'm that new to Usenet.
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> You have no idea of my experience, and I'm not interested in trading
> resumes or having a dick-size-war about who has been using and
> administering it for more decades.
Why so defensive? I never questioned your experience. I am not
even a programmer. I used to study programming languages, pascal,
c, c++, on my own for fun. Not any more.
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> Not at all. I make my living with open-source software. I'm trying
> to understand what the hell you're trying to accomplish. I understand
> Windows very, very well, which is why I prefer any alternative.
I am making a story about sudden change of mind, like zen
awakening, to post at alt.philosophy.zen. I am trying to make it
interesting to some of the programmers there. Stop by if you
wanna lose your defensiveness.
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> I'm trying to figure out if your line of questioning is interesting
> enough to spend time on, is all. Looks like "no".
I am losing interest myself. Definitely no need to reply unless
you are compulsively territorial.
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| Dave Hinz 2005-01-05, 3:59 pm |
| On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 13:12:30 -0500, Stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote:
> Dave Hinz wrote:
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> Sorry, I was about 'top-posting'. I was thinking of
> thread hijacking. I'm that new to Usenet.
There are groups and FAQs for people who are new to usenet.
You might benefit from finding them.
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> Why so defensive? I never questioned your experience.
Apparently "you seem to know more about (it) than you think" means
something different in your world?
[color=darkred]
> I am making a story about sudden change of mind, like zen
> awakening, to post at alt.philosophy.zen. I am trying to make it
> interesting to some of the programmers there. Stop by if you
> wanna lose your defensiveness.
Thanks, but if you're a representative of the group, I think I'll
give it a miss.
>
> I am losing interest myself. Definitely no need to reply unless
> you are compulsively territorial.
Sure, go ahead, you can have the last word. While you're googling
for new-user faqs, google "plonk".
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| KHaled 2005-01-10, 8:58 am |
| Stumper <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote in
news:vPScnYIC9-5ojUHcUSdV9g@ptd.net:
> Quite possible. Is it mathmatically or theoretically
> possible to make any operating system bug free?
>
>
Don't know. When I studied autometa theory that possibility
was explored, but for trivial programs. Whole o/s's ?? don't
know. What I can say is that if you use high software
engineering principles, and develop around modular principles
using microkernels then the odds are much better.
While I do not have an answer, I'd like to see some info on
operating systems such as QNX, and other mk based.
I wonder if people in comp.os.qnx or comp.realtime would have
input on this.
--
KHaled
e-mail: khaledihREMOVEUPPERCASELETTERS at fusemail dot net
(correcting antispam crap..)
please start your subject line with the string "==NG=="
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| "Stumper" <stumper@newvessel.com> schreef in bericht
news:M-2cnSZv6OcvvEHcUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> 1. How did I manage to top-post anything? Everything looks fine in my
> Thunderbird.
Perhaps You should switch to Outlook Express! You can download it for free
at www.microsoft.com.
Greetings,
Rene
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| Dave Hinz 2005-01-12, 4:03 pm |
| On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:35:20 +0100, Rene <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
> "Stumper" <stumper@newvessel.com> schreef in bericht
> news:M-2cnSZv6OcvvEHcUSdV9g@ptd.net...
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> Perhaps You should switch to Outlook Express! You can download it for free
> at www.microsoft.com.
They don't seem to have a freebsd version.
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| Peterken 2005-03-25, 8:59 am |
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"Dave Hinz" <DaveHinz@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:34kt18F4adfp7U1@individual.net...
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:35:20 +0100, Rene <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
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> They don't seem to have a freebsd version.
<bottom posting for comprehensiveness top Dave>
Seems logical it's not free, it's a *quality* product :-D
*And* top-posting keeps scrolling to a minimum you know
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| Peterken 2005-03-25, 8:59 am |
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"Stumper" <stumper@newvessel.com> wrote in message
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> What will happen if Bill Gates put all Windows source codes into the
> Public Domain?
Simple : It gets messed up by those open-source gurus
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