Compression - Spam killing in GoogleNews

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Spam killing in GoogleNews

earlcolby.pottinger@sympatico.ca

2008-01-28, 6:57 pm

Stole this info from SHWI:

As we all know the spam attacks of late have hurt the newsgroup but
for those of us who use Google Groups to browse SHWI/AHWI/AHF there's
a way to remove the troll infestation from view. The solution is a
greasemonkey script that enables a killfile function.

These following steps:
1 Install firefox which you can get from the Mozilla site. This is to
be able to get the extension you need.
2 Install the Greasemonkey extension( get it from
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748 )
3 Get the Google Groups killfile script from
http://www.penney.org/google-groups...-updated-2.html and load
it using greasemonkey.
4 When you browse SHWI and see a thread/post by anyone you dislike go
in there and click the new 'ignore user' link in the thread and all
threads/posts from them will be no longer visible. WARNING: You'll
need to manually add people who have apostrophes in their names into
the killfile manually. This is done by typing in about :config into the
URL bar
5 Enjoy spamfree browsing.

Phil Carmody

2008-01-28, 6:57 pm

earlcolby.pottinger@sympatico.ca writes:
> Stole this info from SHWI:
>
> As we all know the spam attacks of late have hurt the newsgroup but
> for those of us who use Google Groups to browse SHWI/AHWI/AHF there's
> a way to remove the troll infestation from view. The solution is a
> greasemonkey script that enables a killfile function.

Google groups is the source of over 90% of the spam. (In
recent w

s, on the newsgroups I read, I'd say about more
like 99.5%). Therefore the best solution is to simply
boycott those who are enabling the spam - google groups.

[SNIP - method that relies on spammers not morphing.]

Rather, get a proper newsreader, a decent news provider,
and killfile anything that comes from googlegroups.
Google groups sucks, it always has done, and it's only
getting worse, in part thanks to the spammers.

Phil
--
Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all.
-- Microsoft voice recognition live demonstration

Mark Adler

2008-01-29, 3:57 am

On Jan 28, 4:16=A0pm, Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demun...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> Therefore the best solution is to simply
> boycott those who are enabling the spam - google groups.

Hmm, I use google groups. It is far more convenient than a separate
news reader, which I don't particularly need or want.

Oh well. Signing off from comp.compression. Bye y'all.

Mark

Phil Carmody

2008-01-29, 6:58 pm

Mark Adler <madler@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
> On Jan 28, 4:16_pm, Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demun...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Hmm, I use google groups. It is far more convenient than a separate
> news reader, which I don't particularly need or want.

"Convenient"? Ha! You've obviously never tried reading sci.crypt.

Phil
--
Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all.
-- Microsoft voice recognition live demonstration

Mark Adler

2008-01-29, 6:58 pm

On Jan 29, 5:59=A0am, Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demun...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> "Convenient"? Ha! You've obviously never tried reading sci.crypt.

Nope.

Mark

Industrial One

2008-01-29, 6:58 pm

On Jan 29, 6:59 am, Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demun...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> Mark Adler <mad...@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
>
>
> "Convenient"? Ha! You've obviously never tried reading sci.crypt.
>
> Phil
> --
> Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all.
> -- Microsoft voice recognition live demonstration

I've visitted sci.crypt and the spam abated ever since I starting post
in that joint.

Le Chaud Lapin

2008-02-02, 10:00 pm

On Jan 29, 10:47=A0am, Mark Adler <mad...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:[color=darkred]
> On Jan 29, 5:59=A0am, Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demun...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>

Wouldn't it be interesting indeed if cryptographic primitives could
form the basis of a framework that would make it nearly impossible to
spam newsgroups, or other fora of communications? ;)

-Le Chaud Lapin-

Phil Carmody

2008-02-03, 3:57 am

Le Chaud Lapin <jaibuduvin@gmail.com> writes:
> On Jan 29, 10:47_am, Mark Adler <mad...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
>
> Wouldn't it be interesting indeed if cryptographic primitives could
> form the basis of a framework that would make it nearly impossible to
> spam newsgroups, or other fora of communications? ;)

It would change the nature of usenet, which is fundamentally
unrestricted. Most of the spam can be avoided simply by UDP-ing
googlegroups, which is the source of 98% of the crap in every
group (99% of the spam, and 97% of the idiotic posters). However,
sci.crypt has been under a deliberate mass sporgery attack, and
google groups is not to blame for that. The simplest solution
to that would be a (perhaps class action) lawsuit against Microsoft
for shipping out devices which are so easily compromised and turned
into destructive botnets. It wouldn't fix the problem now, but
would hopefully ensure that it wouldn't happen in the future.

Phil
--
Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all.
-- Microsoft voice recognition live demonstration

Industrial One

2008-02-03, 6:58 pm

On Feb 3, 12:56 am, Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demun...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> Le Chaud Lapin <jaibudu...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>
>
>
> It would change the nature of usenet, which is fundamentally
> unrestricted. Most of the spam can be avoided simply by UDP-ing
> googlegroups, which is the source of 98% of the crap in every
> group (99% of the spam, and 97% of the idiotic posters). However,
> sci.crypt has been under a deliberate mass sporgery attack, and
> google groups is not to blame for that. The simplest solution
> to that would be a (perhaps class action) lawsuit against Microsoft
> for shipping out devices which are so easily compromised and turned
> into destructive botnets. It wouldn't fix the problem now, but
> would hopefully ensure that it wouldn't happen in the future.
>
> Phil
> --
> Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all.
> -- Microsoft voice recognition live demonstration

Lawsuits are trivial, and Microsoft can always stick their hands up
their Jew asses and pull out some flammable bullshit to counter the
applicants or make the whole process very tedious.

There should be a technical way to identify spam and filter it out. I
don't have much background on the inner technical dynamics of UseNet
but if the spam is carried out thru specified nodes then maybe the
XXXXers could be shitlisted? If UseNet employs a proxified traffic
forwarding system that makes the aforementioned method useless then
could the messages themselves be identified somehow? Perhaps extremely
redundant messages if most contain repetitions of single phrases, or
in sci.crypt's case, filter out messages that don't contain certain
common cryptographic terms that should appear in almost every
legitimate message, and ones with few or no numbers etc.

The spammer can always enhance his bots to circumvent the filters, and
we enhance the filters. Who knows what the hell may spawn in the
process.

Bottomline is: you gotta define "spam," to a precise point where it
can still be distinguished from some dumb, cocksucker-mentality-ridden
(but still legitimate) messages posted asking noobish questions.

Le Chaud Lapin

2008-02-03, 6:58 pm

On Feb 3, 9:21=A0am, Industrial One <industrial_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 3, 12:56 am, Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demun...@yahoo.co.uk>
> There should be a technical way to identify spam and filter it out. I
> don't have much background on the inner technical dynamics of UseNet
> but if the spam is carried out thru specified nodes then maybe the
> XXXXers could be shitlisted? If UseNet employs a proxified traffic
> forwarding system that makes the aforementioned method useless then
> could the messages themselves be identified somehow? Perhaps extremely
> redundant messages if most contain repetitions of single phrases, or
> in sci.crypt's case, filter out messages that don't contain certain
> common cryptographic terms that should appear in almost every
> legitimate message, and ones with few or no numbers etc.

If there were some way to identify each user, using hard crypto, then
spam should be mostly stoppable.

Also, the gravitational pull of USENET is not so strong that we would
not consider a new system that provided user-identity. People join
all kinds of bulletin boards on the 'Net.

But you're right about the soft-aspect of the filtering problem. It's
not black-and-white.

The stochastically-inclined could feast on such a project.

-Le Chaud Lapin-

Industrial_One

2008-02-05, 3:56 am

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 07:54:11 -0800 (PST), Le Chaud Lapin wrote:

> On Feb 3, 9:21_am, Industrial One <industrial_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> If there were some way to identify each user, using hard crypto, then
> spam should be mostly stoppable.
>
> Also, the gravitational pull of USENET is not so strong that we would
> not consider a new system that provided user-identity. People join
> all kinds of bulletin boards on the 'Net.
>
> But you're right about the soft-aspect of the filtering problem. It's
> not black-and-white.
>
> The stochastically-inclined could feast on such a project.
>
> -Le Chaud Lapin-

Cocksucking faggot XXXX! XXXX that ass.

Industrial One

2008-02-05, 9:58 pm

Some dickhole forgot his antidepressants.

INB4MURDER/SUICIDE

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