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Author Infima - Bug fix release
Nir Halowani

2006-04-06, 7:55 am

Hi,

Following your feedbacks, an update version is available for
downloading at: www.myinfima.com

In case you have already downloaded a version you can use the delta
version (Just extract it in the installation directory:
http://www.myinfima.com/archive/infima_5-4.zip

This version fix the following issues:
1. Problems with extracting (16-bit executable, dll's, ocx etc).
2. Fix for the WAV bit-to-bit reconstruction problem (We have weakened
the algorithms in the current version, until all issues will be
resolved).
3. Fix renaming problems of original files.

- Nir

Stephan Busch (Squeeze Chart 2005)

2006-04-06, 6:55 pm

Hi folks, It's Stephan Busch here.

Nir Halowani wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Following your feedbacks, an update version is available for
> downloading at: www.myinfima.com
>
> In case you have already downloaded a version you can use the delta
> version (Just extract it in the installation directory:
> http://www.myinfima.com/archive/infima_5-4.zip


This version also cannot be installed on WinXP systems..

Fulcrum

2006-04-06, 6:55 pm


Stephan Busch (Squeeze Chart 2005) wrote:
> Hi folks, It's Stephan Busch here.
>
> Nir Halowani wrote:
>
> This version also cannot be installed on WinXP systems..


It can be installed, but when starting the program it throws an out of
memory error. (I have 1024 Mb installed).

Scott A Crosby

2006-04-06, 6:55 pm

On 6 Apr 2006 03:18:58 -0700, "Nir Halowani" <nirmice@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi,
>
> Following your feedbacks, an update version is available for
> downloading at: www.myinfima.com
>
> In case you have already downloaded a version you can use the delta
> version (Just extract it in the installation directory:
> http://www.myinfima.com/archive/infima_5-4.zip
>
> This version fix the following issues:
> 1. Problems with extracting (16-bit executable, dll's, ocx etc).
> 2. Fix for the WAV bit-to-bit reconstruction problem (We have weakened
> the algorithms in the current version, until all issues will be
> resolved).
> 3. Fix renaming problems of original files.


The most important feature of a compression program is that it does
not lose data. While you're still releasting beta versions, why not
incorporate an autoverify option --- enabled by default --- where your
program automatically verifies that every file it compresses can be
correctly extracted, and it files a bug report if not.

Scott
Sachin Garg

2006-04-06, 6:55 pm


Scott A Crosby wrote:
> On 6 Apr 2006 03:18:58 -0700, "Nir Halowani" <nirmice@gmail.com> writes:
>
>
> The most important feature of a compression program is that it does
> not lose data. While you're still releasting beta versions, why not
> incorporate an autoverify option --- enabled by default --- where your
> program automatically verifies that every file it compresses can be
> correctly extracted, and it files a bug report if not.


The worse part is that it messes up with not only the files going into
the archive, but also the original files left back on the disk. No
matter what they need to do to to files before putting them in archive,
they shouldn't really be modifying the original files. (I noticed this
when trying to compress Jpegs).

Sachin Garg [India]
http://www.sachingarg.com

Phil Carmody

2006-04-07, 3:55 am

"Sachin Garg" <schngrg@gmail.com> writes:
> The worse part is that it messes up with not only the files going into
> the archive, but also the original files left back on the disk. No
> matter what they need to do to to files before putting them in archive,
> they shouldn't really be modifying the original files. (I noticed this
> when trying to compress Jpegs).


Excellent, that means the payload has kicked in...

Trojan Phil
--
What is it: is man only a blunder of God, or God only a blunder of man?
-- Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900), The Twilight of the Gods
Nir Halowani

2006-04-07, 3:55 am

Hi,

We will fix all reported issues.
Thanks a lot for your feedbacks.

- Nir

Fulcrum

2006-04-07, 6:55 pm

Have a look at the MaximumCompression guestbook, infima seems to be a
combination of all avaiable the top command line archivers. Some of
them lossy!!

http://maximumcompression.com/guestbook/guestbook.php

johan.debock@gmail.com

2006-04-07, 6:55 pm

And take a look here:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums...=25#entry379926

Sportman

2006-04-07, 6:55 pm

johan.debock@gmail.com wrote:
> And take a look here:
> http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums...=25#entry379926


Smart, they gave the nowadays seldom used phrase "meta compressor" face
:-)

Who's next?

Sachin Garg

2006-04-07, 6:55 pm


johan.debock@gmail.com wrote:
> And take a look here:
> http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums...=25#entry379926


Thatz a *very* interesting revelation you have made :-)

Sachin Garg [India]
http://www.sachingarg.com

Malcolm Taylor

2006-04-07, 9:56 pm

I wonder if he has permission to distribute all those compressors... :)
I expect one of the authors should press the point.

Malcolm


Sachin Garg wrote:
> johan.debock@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> Thatz a *very* interesting revelation you have made :-)
>
> Sachin Garg [India]
> http://www.sachingarg.com
>

Mike B

2006-04-08, 3:55 am

According to someone posting to the 7zip forum, he has managed to unpack all
the commandline compressors included in this package which were packed with
UNARC.

So it seems that the only thing that they might be doing, is to apply some
filtering on the raw data before it is passed onto one of the compressors.

They have made no concession to using these compressors (including 7Zip and
PAQ8), so one should be very cirumspect about anything they claim.

Mike

"Sachin Garg" <schngrg@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144453143.560715.160290@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> johan.debock@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thatz a *very* interesting revelation you have made :-)
>
> Sachin Garg [India]
> http://www.sachingarg.com
>



Sportman

2006-04-08, 3:55 am

Malcolm Taylor wrote:
> I wonder if he has permission to distribute all those compressors... :)
> I expect one of the authors should press the point.


Probably not but that's the same as in the music industry. A musician
use some or all notes or samples without permission from others and
when the record become a success it's time to contact the owner(s) or
the owner(s) complain already automatic and because that's often at a
point the record is generating money there is enough room to make an
arrangement.

I never published open source code for this reason because or we write
all open source or nobody. If somebody make a common product for
example bread for free somebody else take advantage of it and try to
get them all and sell it under the bread shop price, because the bread
shop owner get no compensation he can only lower his price what can end
in bankruptcy or also try to get the bread for free to resell it.

In case of software the open source publishers has good intentions but
they must accept that others take advantage and earn money with it and
the open source course cause problems for developers who are in the
same paid software business and try to earn money for their families.
For example at some "rent a code" type of sites at Internet it's
possible to find people who deliver a full functional with all options
Myspace clone for round 3000 dollar. This can only be done with copy
paste... This cause that a developer has less time to market his
invention because it shall be copied quickly.

It was only time that somebody develops a meta compressor with or
without adding some extra algorithms, in search the same happened. At
one side it's bad at the other side good because some little
developers can earn money by licensing their code to meta companies. I
see the next step as online meta compressors where you can stream a
protected stream to a heavy server park that compress files quick and
send a little archive back or store it for you. Alexa/Amazon and Google
shall be interested to license this technology to add it to their
online storage system for example.

Gabriel Bouvigne

2006-04-08, 6:55 pm

Nir Halowani a écrit :
> Following your feedbacks, an update version is available for
> downloading at: www.myinfima.com


You will have to explain why your software is embedding several open
source compressors without respecting their associated licenses.
As an example, the Lame mp3 encoder is lgpl, so you must include
copyright notice about it within your product.
You would not expect to be able to use it without anyone noticing it,
would you?


Regards,

Gabriel Bouvigne
L.A.M.E. developper
Jim Leonard

2006-04-10, 6:55 pm

Sachin Garg wrote:
> johan.debock@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thatz a *very* interesting revelation you have made :-)


LOL! That is just awesome. Wow, I wish I never helped these guys now.

Bryan Kirk

2006-04-20, 3:55 am

Nir:

Have you gotten my emails yet? If you haven't, here's what they contained:

1. The UI should be made to look like WinZip/etc.
2. There should be a message board added to its website.
3. Please check the forum post located at
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums...dpost&p=384223.
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