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xtreem

2004-08-23, 3:55 am

Ever since installing SP2, I get a 'do you want to allow this page to paste
information from the clipboard' prompt every time I try and copy anything
from a page in dexplore.exe (ms-help://blah/) or within VS.net when reading
msdn documentation.

It doesnt matter how I try to copy the information, (context menu, ctrl-del,
ctrl-c, edit->copy etc) I get this damn prompt. I dont get it when viewing a
http page in IE however. I have disabled the 'prompt to allow script to
access to the clipboard' or whatever it is in all zones.

It was working fine pre-sp2. Anyone else having this problem? and more
importantly, is there a fix?

thanks.
shane


Homer J. Simpson

2004-08-23, 8:56 am

"xtreem" <invalid@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ever since installing SP2, I get a 'do you want to allow this page to
> paste information from the clipboard' prompt every time I try and copy
> anything from a page in dexplore.exe (ms-help://blah/) or within VS.net
> when reading msdn documentation.
>
> It doesnt matter how I try to copy the information, (context menu,
> ctrl-del, ctrl-c, edit->copy etc) I get this damn prompt. I dont get it
> when viewing a http page in IE however. I have disabled the 'prompt to
> allow script to access to the clipboard' or whatever it is in all zones.
>
> It was working fine pre-sp2. Anyone else having this problem? and more
> importantly, is there a fix?
>
> thanks.
> shane


Shane,

Sorry I don't have any solution for your problem, but I have to ask...how
often do you need to copy stuff from the MSDN documentation? I've had an
MSDN subscription since the mid-90's, and have never found the need to do
so. If this was a problem saving web-based stuff locally I'd understand
(I'm a dial-up user at home), but MSDN?

(Please don't view this is as a "what's he complaining about" post; I'm
always on the lookout for better ways to save and organize tidbits of
information locally; I'm curious to know what you do with the MSDN
information you're trying to copy/paste elsewhere)


Eyal Teler

2004-08-23, 8:56 am

> Sorry I don't have any solution for your problem, but I have to ask...how
> often do you need to copy stuff from the MSDN documentation? I've had an
> MSDN subscription since the mid-90's, and have never found the need to do
> so. If this was a problem saving web-based stuff locally I'd understand
> (I'm a dial-up user at home), but MSDN?


I'd guess he's a programmer and you're not. As a programmer, I always
copy stuff off the docs. Save typing long function names that you've
just looked up.

Eyal
Homer J. Simpson

2004-08-23, 3:56 pm

"Eyal Teler" <et@nospam-et3d.com> wrote in message
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>
> I'd guess he's a programmer and you're not. As a programmer, I always copy
> stuff off the docs. Save typing long function names that you've just
> looked up.


For the record I've been earning a living as a developer for 8-9 years now.
Why else, as I mentioned, would I have had an MSDN subscription since the
mid-90's?

"Cutting and pasting function names"? `:-/ Okay...


xtreem

2004-08-23, 3:56 pm

"Eyal Teler" <et@nospam-et3d.com> wrote in message
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>
> I'd guess he's a programmer and you're not. As a programmer, I always copy
> stuff off the docs. Save typing long function names that you've just
> looked up.
>
> Eyal


Yep I copy function names and arguments, plus the plethora of examples that
are available in msdn all the time when programming.

If your'e trying to do a common task such as create a window or connect to a
database or whatever, there is often an example showing the few lines that
it takes. Its much easier to just copy and paste this than re-type it all.
Thats what its there for afterall.

Plus the function names and arguments are sometimes difficult to re-type,
even with intelli-type stuff on.

Is anyone else able to repro this under winxp-sp2?


xtreem

2004-08-23, 3:56 pm

>
> Yep I copy function names and arguments, plus the plethora of examples
> that are available in msdn all the time when programming.
>
> If your'e trying to do a common task such as create a window or connect to
> a database or whatever, there is often an example showing the few lines
> that it takes. Its much easier to just copy and paste this than re-type it
> all. Thats what its there for afterall.
>
> Plus the function names and arguments are sometimes difficult to re-type,
> even with intelli-type stuff on.
>
> Is anyone else able to repro this under winxp-sp2?


Ive fixed this with the help of a bit of regmon. It seems the Zone0 (My
Computer) has the 'script allow paste operation' flag set, probably
introduced with SP2.

Setting the dword
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Win
dows\CurrentVersion\Internet
Settings\Zones\0 [1407]

to zero fixed the problem. For some reason IE doesnt list this zone in its
options. However, its interesting to note that browsing to a ms-help url in
iexplore doesnt give you this clipboard prompt, its only when using dexplore
or the vs IDE. Im not that happy with this fix, Im guessing there must be
some way to add ms-help or dexplore to some kind of trusted list or
something. It will do for now.


Eyal Teler

2004-08-25, 3:55 pm

> For the record I've been earning a living as a developer for 8-9 years now.
> Why else, as I mentioned, would I have had an MSDN subscription since the
> mid-90's?


Servers and latest OSs to test? Versions of various products?
Documentation? Some kind of development lend themselves to such
copying more than others. For example, you might be an SQL developer,
subscribe to MSDN for FoxPro and related servers, and live happily
without any sort of copy and paste (can't say if that's true, since
I'm not a database developer, but it seemed like a reasonable example).

Eyal
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