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[ANN] Smalltalk powers content management hosting service

Long

2004-04-06, 4:43 pm

Fellow Smalltalkers,

I would like to invite you to join us in celebrating the launch
of our new web hosting service. It is powered by Smalltalk (of
course), MySQL, apache and Linux (hence, the SMAL architecture).

Our hosting environment is completely web-based. This means
digital content can be managed and updated from anywhere as long
as a connection to the Internet and a web browser is available.
It is also packed with ready-to-use (server-side) features
aimed to help cut down development effort and costs.

Please visit our web site (in beta) at http://www.webcharm.ca/
and try our service FREE for 30-days, no obligation.

I look forward to your comments and suggestions...

Best Regards,

Long On
Edgesoft Consulting Inc.
www.webcharm.ca - content management web hosting

Victor

2004-04-07, 5:35 pm

Which Smalltalk was used in developing the site?

What are the charges for using your site after the initial free period?

Victor

P.S. I tried to send this same message personally, but it didn't go
through.

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"Long" <rootuser@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:LwCcc.19$SQE.7@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> Fellow Smalltalkers,
>
> I would like to invite you to join us in celebrating the launch
> of our new web hosting service. It is powered by Smalltalk (of
> course), MySQL, apache and Linux (hence, the SMAL architecture).
>
> Our hosting environment is completely web-based. This means
> digital content can be managed and updated from anywhere as long
> as a connection to the Internet and a web browser is available.
> It is also packed with ready-to-use (server-side) features
> aimed to help cut down development effort and costs.
>
> Please visit our web site (in beta) at http://www.webcharm.ca/
> and try our service FREE for 30-days, no obligation.
>
> I look forward to your comments and suggestions...
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Long On
> Edgesoft Consulting Inc.
> www.webcharm.ca - content management web hosting
>
>
>

Long - CM web hosting

2004-04-07, 8:32 pm

"Victor" <vmgoldberg__NO-_*SPAM*_-PLEASE@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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: Which Smalltalk was used in developing the site?
:
: What are the charges for using your site after the initial free period?
:
: Victor
:
: P.S. I tried to send this same message personally, but it didn't go
: through.
:
Hi Victor,

VAST 6.01 (no surprise) was used in developing the CM system, but
the site was developed using HTML templates and custom tags. An
interesting challenge was the "chicken before the egg" problem since
the web site was built within the system that provided the services.

I am researching the market to find similar offerings, but so far
have found only cheap hosting providers which offers various
"technology-enabled" services. Basically, clients are left to
brew-their-own if they want usable features. On the other
extreme are various CMSes that either require technical
expertise to set up and/or too costly.

I would appreciate any lead to sites that offer similar services.

In terms of hosting plans, I think different ones are needed to target
different client needs. The real challenge is in determining a price per
feature(s) that is both fair and affordable.

If you like you reach me off-line long at edgesoft dot ca NO SPAM

Regards,

Long On
Edgesoft Consulting Inc.
www.webcharm.ca - content management web hosting

Vlastimil Adamovsky

2004-04-15, 12:36 pm

How do you get MySQL working with Smalltalk? I guess you are using VA?
I am asking because VA works with ODBC, VW not completely. There were some
"data type"
translation errors.

Vlastik

"Long" <rootuser@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:LwCcc.19$SQE.7@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> Fellow Smalltalkers,
>
> I would like to invite you to join us in celebrating the launch
> of our new web hosting service. It is powered by Smalltalk (of
> course), MySQL, apache and Linux (hence, the SMAL architecture).
>
> Our hosting environment is completely web-based. This means
> digital content can be managed and updated from anywhere as long
> as a connection to the Internet and a web browser is available.
> It is also packed with ready-to-use (server-side) features
> aimed to help cut down development effort and costs.
>
> Please visit our web site (in beta) at http://www.webcharm.ca/
> and try our service FREE for 30-days, no obligation.
>
> I look forward to your comments and suggestions...
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Long On
> Edgesoft Consulting Inc.
> www.webcharm.ca - content management web hosting
>
>
>

Long - CM web hosting

2004-04-15, 3:56 pm

"Vlastimil Adamovsky" <info@sharphoster.com> wrote in message
news:407eb47b$2@news.totallyobjects.com...
: How do you get MySQL working with Smalltalk? I guess you are using VA?
: I am asking because VA works with ODBC, VW not completely. There were some
: "data type"
: translation errors.
:
: Vlastik
:
I had been using VAST+MyODBC+MySQL from the earliest prototype
(since 2001 if I recall correctly) on Windows NT/2000. As I recall there
were no hard issues with data types. I did notice one intermitment problem
with TEXT, MEDIUMTEXT and probably LONGTEXT as well. Some
times the content of these fields were garbage in VAST. The work-around
was to set the 'safety' option in the ODBC driver.

I have not used all available data types, but the ones that I have used
seem fine. Which type(s) were problematic for you?

When porting to Linux (RH) there was a problem creating ODBC
connection but was resolved. I had posted the work-around here

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=...s04.bloor.is.ne
t.cable.rogers.com

If the link is broken just google for
"determineDatabaseConnectionType group:ibm.software.vasmalltalk"

Long
www.webcharm.ca - content management web hosting

Vlastimil Adamovsky

2004-04-15, 5:43 pm

"Long - CM web hosting" <rootuser@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> "Vlastimil Adamovsky" <info@sharphoster.com> wrote in message
> news:407eb47b$2@news.totallyobjects.com...
> : How do you get MySQL working with Smalltalk? I guess you are using VA?
> : I am asking because VA works with ODBC, VW not completely. There were
some
> : "data type"
> : translation errors.
> :
> : Vlastik
> :
> I had been using VAST+MyODBC+MySQL from the earliest prototype
> (since 2001 if I recall correctly) on Windows NT/2000. As I recall there
> were no hard issues with data types. I did notice one intermitment problem
> with TEXT, MEDIUMTEXT and probably LONGTEXT as well. Some
> times the content of these fields were garbage in VAST. The work-around
> was to set the 'safety' option in the ODBC driver.
>
> I have not used all available data types, but the ones that I have used
> seem fine. Which type(s) were problematic for you?

I really don't remember. I think it was VCHAR or somesith like that.
It was some time ago...so it may work now in new releases

Vlastik

Long - CM web hosting

2004-04-15, 6:40 pm

"Vlastimil Adamovsky" <info@sharphoster.com> wrote in message
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:
: "Long - CM web hosting" <rootuser@rogers.com> wrote in message
: news:pbBfc.150241$SQE.82316@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
: > "Vlastimil Adamovsky" <info@sharphoster.com> wrote in message
: > news:407eb47b$2@news.totallyobjects.com...
: > : How do you get MySQL working with Smalltalk? I guess you are using VA?
: > : I am asking because VA works with ODBC, VW not completely. There were
: some
: > : "data type"
: > : translation errors.
: > :
: > : Vlastik
: > :
: > I had been using VAST+MyODBC+MySQL from the earliest prototype
: > (since 2001 if I recall correctly) on Windows NT/2000. As I recall there
: > were no hard issues with data types. I did notice one intermitment problem
: > with TEXT, MEDIUMTEXT and probably LONGTEXT as well. Some
: > times the content of these fields were garbage in VAST. The work-around
: > was to set the 'safety' option in the ODBC driver.
: >
: > I have not used all available data types, but the ones that I have used
: > seem fine. Which type(s) were problematic for you?
:
: I really don't remember. I think it was VCHAR or somesith like that.
: It was some time ago...so it may work now in new releases
:
Oh yeah, VARCHAR - remember to #trimSeparators when reading in to VAST.

Long

Long - CM web hosting

2004-04-16, 12:35 pm

"Long - CM web hosting" <rootuser@rogers.com> wrote in message
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: "Vlastimil Adamovsky" <info@sharphoster.com> wrote in message
: news:407efba3$1@news.totallyobjects.com...
: :
: : "Long - CM web hosting" <rootuser@rogers.com> wrote in message
: : news:pbBfc.150241$SQE.82316@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
: : > "Vlastimil Adamovsky" <info@sharphoster.com> wrote in message
: : > news:407eb47b$2@news.totallyobjects.com...
: : > : How do you get MySQL working with Smalltalk? I guess you are using VA?
: : > : I am asking because VA works with ODBC, VW not completely. There were
: : some
: : > : "data type"
: : > : translation errors.
: : > :
: : > : Vlastik
: : > :
: : > I had been using VAST+MyODBC+MySQL from the earliest prototype
: : > (since 2001 if I recall correctly) on Windows NT/2000. As I recall there
: : > were no hard issues with data types. I did notice one intermitment problem
: : > with TEXT, MEDIUMTEXT and probably LONGTEXT as well. Some
: : > times the content of these fields were garbage in VAST. The work-around
: : > was to set the 'safety' option in the ODBC driver.
: : >
: : > I have not used all available data types, but the ones that I have used
: : > seem fine. Which type(s) were problematic for you?
: :
: : I really don't remember. I think it was VCHAR or somesith like that.
: : It was some time ago...so it may work now in new releases
: :
: Oh yeah, VARCHAR - remember to #trimSeparators when reading in to VAST.
:
Just realize I made a freudian slip (spell?). I meant #trimNull.

Long
www.webcharm.ca - content management web hosting

Vlastimil Adamovsky

2004-04-16, 5:34 pm

"Long - CM web hosting" <rootuser@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> "Long - CM web hosting" <rootuser@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:AMDfc.36577$2oI1.12487@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> : "Vlastimil Adamovsky" <info@sharphoster.com> wrote in message
> : news:407efba3$1@news.totallyobjects.com...
> : :
> : : "Long - CM web hosting" <rootuser@rogers.com> wrote in message
> : : news:pbBfc.150241$SQE.82316@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> : : > "Vlastimil Adamovsky" <info@sharphoster.com> wrote in message
> : : > news:407eb47b$2@news.totallyobjects.com...
> : : > : How do you get MySQL working with Smalltalk? I guess you are using
VA?
> : : > : I am asking because VA works with ODBC, VW not completely. There
were
> : : some
> : : > : "data type"
> : : > : translation errors.
> : : > :
> : : > : Vlastik
> : : > :
> : : > I had been using VAST+MyODBC+MySQL from the earliest prototype
> : : > (since 2001 if I recall correctly) on Windows NT/2000. As I recall
there
> : : > were no hard issues with data types. I did notice one intermitment
problem
> : : > with TEXT, MEDIUMTEXT and probably LONGTEXT as well. Some
> : : > times the content of these fields were garbage in VAST. The
work-around
> : : > was to set the 'safety' option in the ODBC driver.
> : : >
> : : > I have not used all available data types, but the ones that I have
used
> : : > seem fine. Which type(s) were problematic for you?
> : :
> : : I really don't remember. I think it was VCHAR or somesith like that.
> : : It was some time ago...so it may work now in new releases
> : :
> : Oh yeah, VARCHAR - remember to #trimSeparators when reading in to VAST.
> :
> Just realize I made a freudian slip (spell?). I meant #trimNull.

It sounds better:)

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