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| gavino 2006-07-04, 4:02 am |
| http://brl.sourceforge.net/brl_1.html#SEC1
This loosk liek a great tool but gives me pause:
1 its scheme
2 its scheme on a jvm?
3 Im new to programming
4 there are other tools and this site is old 2003
5 is BRL still a better way?
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| Bruce Lewis 2006-07-05, 7:00 pm |
| "gavino" <bootiack@yahoo.com> writes:
> http://brl.sourceforge.net/brl_1.html#SEC1
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> This loosk liek a great tool but gives me pause:
> 1 its scheme
> 2 its scheme on a jvm?
> 3 Im new to programming
> 4 there are other tools and this site is old 2003
> 5 is BRL still a better way?
If you are creating a database-centric web application, then yes, BRL is
still a better way than PHP or Ruby. Some of the advantages of BRL
could be implemented in non-lispy languages, but they still have not.
And those advantages were part of it prior to 2003. PHP
backward-incompatibly changed its way of dealing with form inputs
without imitating BRL's superior way, for example. They could have
eliminated the security issues they faced while retaining some semblance
of the simplicity they had before.
Ruby on Rails mandates bad database design by not supporting composite
primary keys.
The main impediment to new BRL releases has been my lack of time. Plus
it being good enough that improving it has been low on the priority
list.
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| gavino 2006-07-05, 9:58 pm |
| Do I have to learn java before BRL?
Can I learn BRL from your site?
How much of jetty do I ned to know (or servlet spec?)
I am a beginner programming but I love the idea of a  tool liek
this that will make life easy.
Bruce Lewis wrote:
> "gavino" <bootiack@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>
> If you are creating a database-centric web application, then yes, BRL is
> still a better way than PHP or Ruby. Some of the advantages of BRL
> could be implemented in non-lispy languages, but they still have not.
> And those advantages were part of it prior to 2003. PHP
> backward-incompatibly changed its way of dealing with form inputs
> without imitating BRL's superior way, for example. They could have
> eliminated the security issues they faced while retaining some semblance
> of the simplicity they had before.
>
> Ruby on Rails mandates bad database design by not supporting composite
> primary keys.
>
> The main impediment to new BRL releases has been my lack of time. Plus
> it being good enough that improving it has been low on the priority
> list.
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| Bruce Lewis 2006-07-05, 9:59 pm |
| "gavino" <bootiack@yahoo.com> writes:
> Do I have to learn java before BRL?
No.
> Can I learn BRL from your site?
Yes, but using learnbrl.war is better.
> How much of jetty do I ned to know (or servlet spec?)
Enough to know where to put webapps.
> I am a beginner programming but I love the idea of a tool liek
> this that will make life easy.
It will make life easy once you have your database designed and know
what the web front end should look like. Those parts aren't always
trivial.
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