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is AI possible (was Re: Purpose of the LAMBDA keyword?)
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| Ray Blaak 2006-03-13, 7:00 pm |
| Ray Dillinger <bear@sonic.net> writes:
> Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk wrote:
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> This is not something which can, in principle, fail, because
> an existence proof that human-level intelligence can be implemented
> exists, and it is not something that the human species is capable
> of entirely giving up. Sooner or later, there *WILL* be machine
> intelligence of human scale, even if it turns out that we have to
> fully model the neural interconnections of a human brain in order
> to achieve it. It would be more accurate to say only that it
> has not succeeded yet.
[I...can't...resist....opening the "AI is possible or not" thread]
Humans clearly exist. What is not clear is whether or not their abilities can
be accurately or even reasonably be realized by a von-Neuman computing
machine.
Certainly all attempts to date have not worked. But then there are some pretty
 systems that do things much better than a few years ago (e.g. driving in
the desert). Maybe all we are is the appropriate collection of "tricks".
Many (most?) comp sci freaks often assume the universe is essentially
equivalent to a digital computer, so it must be possible, at least
conceptually.
But that assumption is a rather non-trivial belief about how the universe
works, and one that needs to be tested, as good science demands.
I believe that a smart machine is theoretically possible simply because we
exist. How that machine would or could work is not at all clear to me.
To date, we only know how to make smart "machines" by making babies.
--
Cheers, The Rhythm is around me,
The Rhythm has control.
Ray Blaak The Rhythm is inside me,
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| Ray Dillinger 2006-03-13, 9:57 pm |
| Ray Blaak wrote:
> Humans clearly exist. What is not clear is whether or not their abilities can
> be accurately or even reasonably be realized by a von-Neuman computing
> machine.
Eh. Not terribly important. If it turns out they can't, then
we'll wind up building some other type of machine.
> Many (most?) comp sci freaks often assume the universe is essentially
> equivalent to a digital computer, so it must be possible, at least
> conceptually.
Hmmm... a quantum cellular finite state automaton, of fractional
dimension, perhaps. "Digital computer" is way too limiting.
> To date, we only know how to make smart "machines" by making babies.
Yep. And that's a pretty good start.
Bear
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