PostScript - problem printing arabic ayn

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problem printing arabic ayn

Hugo Coolens

2004-10-13, 3:59 pm

I made a html-page which uses ʿ to represent the arabic vowel ayn,
this symbol resembles a superscript c. The symbol displays correctly
when using my Mozilla browser. When I try to print it however on my
HL-1270N brother postscript printer I only get a little square in stead
of the symbol. Printing to a file and looking at it with ghostview or gs
gives the same result: a little square and not the symbol.
How can I cure this problem?

regards,
Hugo

Andreas Prilop

2004-10-13, 3:59 pm

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Hugo Coolens wrote:

> I made a html-page which uses ʿ to represent the arabic vowel ayn,
> this symbol resembles a superscript c. The symbol displays correctly
> when using my Mozilla browser.

And in Internet Explorer for Windows? Most characters from
http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell.../unidata02.html
are currently unreliable.

> When I try to print it however on my
> HL-1270N brother postscript printer I only get a little square in stead
> of the symbol. Printing to a file and looking at it with ghostview or gs
> gives the same result: a little square and not the symbol.

Which printer driver do you use? Do you know from which font the symbol
ʿ is taken? Did you specify to download fonts to the printer?

> How can I cure this problem?

I prefer [ as you probably know :-) ] to write ‘ and ’
which are (nearly?) always available.

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Roland Mainz

2004-10-13, 3:59 pm

Hugo Coolens wrote:
> I made a html-page which uses ʿ to represent the arabic vowel ayn,
> this symbol resembles a superscript c. The symbol displays correctly
> when using my Mozilla browser. When I try to print it however on my
> HL-1270N brother postscript printer I only get a little square in stead
> of the symbol. Printing to a file and looking at it with ghostview or gs
> gives the same result: a little square and not the symbol.
> How can I cure this problem?

Get an official Mozilla.org build from http://www.mozilla.org/releases/
, install the Xprint server from http://xprint.mozdev.org/ and make sure
it finds the Arabic fonts. Then you should be able to print any glyphs
outside ISO-Latin-1.

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Roland

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Hugo Coolens

2004-10-14, 3:59 pm

Andreas Prilop wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Hugo Coolens wrote:
>
>
> And in Internet Explorer for Windows? Most characters from
> http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell.../unidata02.html
> are currently unreliable.

I don't have Internet Explorer as the Linux version of it is still not on the
market ;-)
I will be glad enough if I can make the thing work on Linux.

>
>
>
> Which printer driver do you use? Do you know from which font the symbol
> ʿ is taken?

How can I determine that?

> Did you specify to download fonts to the printer?
>

No, I didn't, how should I do that?

>
>
> I prefer [ as you probably know :-) ] to write ‘ and ’
> which are (nearly?) always available.
>

I tried these encodings but I only get two different quotes which don't
resemble the upperscript little c I want to see

I also put two files on my website to show the problem more clearly:
[url]http://users.skynet.be/hugo

ens/lesson.html[/url]
this is the html-page which shows the ayn-symbol displayed correctly in
Mozilla (look e.g. at the line which contains the dutch text: laten we de
eerste oefening maken, its arabic counterpart which precedes it has the word
ni9mal in it (9 used here to represent 9ayn)

[url]http://users.skynet.be/hugo

ens/lesson.ps[/url]
this is the file which doesn't show the ayn on my system using gv, I also
tried out gs on it and saw the warning:
Can't find (or can't open) font file Helvetica_Oblique.
Substituting font Helvetica-Oblique for Helvetica_Oblique.

any further suggestions?

best regards,
hugo

Hugo Coolens

2004-10-14, 3:59 pm

Roland Mainz wrote:

> Hugo Coolens wrote:
>
> Get an official Mozilla.org build from http://www.mozilla.org/releases/
> , install the Xprint server from http://xprint.mozdev.org/ and make sure
> it finds the Arabic fonts. Then you should be able to print any glyphs
> outside ISO-Latin-1.
>

Do you think this will work too for the phonetic representations of the
arabic letters e.g. the superscripted c for ayn, as I don't use the real
arabic letters?

regards,
hugo

Mikkel C. Simonsen

2004-10-14, 3:59 pm

Hugo Coolens wrote:
>
> I also put two files on my website to show the problem more clearly:
> [url]http://users.skynet.be/hugo

ens/lesson.html[/url]
> this is the html-page which shows the ayn-symbol displayed correctly in
> Mozilla (look e.g. at the line which contains the dutch text: laten we de
> eerste oefening maken, its arabic counterpart which precedes it has the word
> ni9mal in it (9 used here to represent 9ayn)

This is very OS/font specific. When I view the page in Mozilla (on OS/2)
I see the small squares - and I get the same result when I print the
page.

I have no problems with viewing or printing Chinese and Russian spam
mails however...

Best regards,

Mikkel C. Simonsen

Roland Mainz

2004-10-14, 8:56 pm

Hugo Coolens wrote:
>
> Do you think this will work too for the phonetic representations of the
> arabic letters e.g. the superscripted c for ayn, as I don't use the real
> arabic letters?

In the case of Mozilla you should get more or less WYSIWYG, depending on
whether you use the same fonts on the display and on the Xprint print
server. If Mozilla supports phonetic representation for normal display
you will see the same on paper, if it doesn't support that it will not
be supported on paper either (the layout and BiDi code for display and
printing is nearly the same in Mozilla).

----

Bye,
Roland

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Hugo Coolens

2004-10-15, 8:56 am

Roland Mainz wrote:
> Hugo Coolens wrote:
>
>
>
> In the case of Mozilla you should get more or less WYSIWYG, depending on
> whether you use the same fonts on the display and on the Xprint print
> server. If Mozilla supports phonetic representation for normal display
> you will see the same on paper, if it doesn't support that it will not
> be supported on paper either (the layout and BiDi code for display and
> printing is nearly the same in Mozilla).
>
The local Linux Guru installed xprint for me and it does work, thanks

hugo

Roland Mainz

2004-10-20, 3:56 am

Roland Mainz

2004-10-21, 4:03 pm

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