Fortran - Intel Fortran, a disaster

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Intel Fortran, a disaster

Jim Klein

2006-09-22, 10:00 pm

Hi,

This will sound like a flame but I swear to all the GODS that it is
not intended to be one.

I have blown 3 10 hour days trying to install Vs 2005 and then Vs
2003 with Inter fortan 9.0 and 9.1, trying to copile and link, from
batch files running Polyhedron's AUTOMAKE, a relatively simple FORTRAN
(using Winteracter) code.

It has been a disaster, meaning that the un-install does not get rid
of the installation under Win 2000 Pro. After un-istalling VS 2003 and
2005 and Intel Fortarn 9.0 and 9.1, I am unable to re-install anything
of INTEL Fortran. Putting the Intel Fortran disk in the machine
results, even after a re-boot, in a message that the install is still
running. The MS software acts more like a VIRUS on my PC than a real
program.

I ran these tests on my own PC before helping one of my freinds
install VS 2005 and Intel Fortran 9.1 on a machine at work to
"upgrade" our in-house FORTRAN code. The result is that we will not be
using Intel Fortran on our in-houe program but will keep using VS 6.0
and CVF until we find a better, less bug infested FORTRAN to keep our
in-house code from becoming a night-mare.

I have used Win 2000 Pro with no bad effects but VS 2003 and VS 2005
and Intel Fortran has so corrupted my machine that I will need to
re-install Win 2000 Pro in order to re-install VS 6.0 Pro and CVF.

I don't blame Steve Lionel as he is just a victim of the crap dumped
upon him an us in the form Of MS Vs 2xxx .NET and Intel Fortran or as
I will call it now VS2xxx.shit and Intel Forshit.

I am not a stupid person. I have an IQ of 120+ and I have followed all
of the guidance given in the documentation and all of the friends I
have in the FORTRAN world to make the installation right, with utter
failure.

Sincerely,

James E. Klein
jameseklein@earthlink.net

Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com
ecalculations@ecalculations.com
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Edmund

2006-09-23, 8:01 am

James,

I use Intel Fortran/C++ and Winteracter and VS2005 with no problems -
but I did have to work a bit to set things up.

The INCLUDE, LIB and PATH environment variables are crucial for what
you are trying to do.

Some of my environment variables are as follows (I have chosen ones
that are relevant plus a few that maybe aren't - but are in "just in
case"):

CommonProgramFiles=C:\Program Files\Common Files
DevEnvDir=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\Common7\IDE
FP_NO_HOST_CHECK=NO
FrameworkDir=C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
FrameworkSDKDir=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\SDK\v2.0
FrameworkVersion=v2.0.50727
ICPP_COMPILER91=C:\Program Files\Intel\Compiler\C++\9.1
IDB_PATH=C:\Program Files\Intel\
IFORT_COMPILER91=C:\Program Files\Intel\Compiler\Fortran\9.1

INCLUDE=
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\ATLMFC\INCLUDE;
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\INCLUDE;
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\PlatformSDK\include;
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\SDK\v2.0\include;
C:\Program Files\HTML Help Workshop\include;
C:\Program Files\Intel\Compiler\C++\9.1\IA32\Include;
C:\Program Files\Intel\Compiler\Fortran\9.1\IA32\Include

INTEL_LICENSE_FILE=C:\Program Files\Common Files\Intel\Licenses
INTEL_SHARED=C:\Program Files\Common Files\Intel\Shared Files

LIB=
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\ATLMFC\LIB;
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\LIB;
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\PlatformSDK\lib;
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\SDK\v2.0\lib;
C:\Program Files\HTML Help Workshop\lib;
C:\Program Files\Intel\Compiler\C++\9.1\IA32\Lib;
C:\Program Files\Intel\Compiler\Fortran\9.1\IA32\Lib

LIBPATH=
C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727;
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\ATLMFC\LIB

Path=
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Intel\Shared Files\Ia32\Bin;
c:\wint\BIN;
C:\Program Files\HTML Help Workshop;
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\Common7\IDE;
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\BIN;
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\Common7\Tools;
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\Common7\Tools\bin;
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\PlatformSDK\bin;
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\SDK\v2.0\bin;
C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727;
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\VCPackages;
C:\plusFORT;
C:\Program Files\Intel\Compiler\C++\9.1\IA32\Bin;
C:\Program Files\Intel\Compiler\Fortran\9.1\IA32\Bin;
C:\Program Files\Intel\IDB\9.1\IA32\Script

ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
VCINSTALLDIR=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC
VS80COMNTOOLS=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\Common7\Tools\
VSINSTALLDIR=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8

WINTER=c:\wint

You should check that you have equivalents of these to match your
installation directories.

I agree with you that Winteracter support is excellent (Lawson
Wakefield) - he has helped me lots also.

Don't get disheartened - many times I have felt similarly -
particularly with Microsoft's works and pomps - but it is possible to
overcome same.

Personally, I ignore VS and use either batch development or (most of
the time) the very user-friendly WiDE.

I don't know how you can deal with your reinstallation problems -
perhaps somebody else can help with that one.

Best wishes,

Edmund Dunlop.

========================================
===============

Jim Klein wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This will sound like a flame but I swear to all the GODS that it is
> not intended to be one.
>
> I have blown 3 10 hour days trying to install Vs 2005 and then Vs
> 2003 with Inter fortan 9.0 and 9.1, trying to copile and link, from
> batch files running Polyhedron's AUTOMAKE, a relatively simple FORTRAN
> (using Winteracter) code.
>
> It has been a disaster, meaning that the un-install does not get rid
> of the installation under Win 2000 Pro. After un-istalling VS 2003 and
> 2005 and Intel Fortarn 9.0 and 9.1, I am unable to re-install anything
> of INTEL Fortran. Putting the Intel Fortran disk in the machine
> results, even after a re-boot, in a message that the install is still
> running. The MS software acts more like a VIRUS on my PC than a real
> program.
>
> I ran these tests on my own PC before helping one of my freinds
> install VS 2005 and Intel Fortran 9.1 on a machine at work to
> "upgrade" our in-house FORTRAN code. The result is that we will not be
> using Intel Fortran on our in-houe program but will keep using VS 6.0
> and CVF until we find a better, less bug infested FORTRAN to keep our
> in-house code from becoming a night-mare.
>
> I have used Win 2000 Pro with no bad effects but VS 2003 and VS 2005
> and Intel Fortran has so corrupted my machine that I will need to
> re-install Win 2000 Pro in order to re-install VS 6.0 Pro and CVF.
>
> I don't blame Steve Lionel as he is just a victim of the crap dumped
> upon him an us in the form Of MS Vs 2xxx .NET and Intel Fortran or as
> I will call it now VS2xxx.shit and Intel Forshit.
>
> I am not a stupid person. I have an IQ of 120+ and I have followed all
> of the guidance given in the documentation and all of the friends I
> have in the FORTRAN world to make the installation right, with utter
> failure.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> James E. Klein
> jameseklein@earthlink.net
>
> Engineering Calculations
> http://www.ecalculations.com
> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
> Engineering Calculations is the home of
> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
> for Windows and (soon) MAC OSX
> Free KDP-2 (DEMO) downloadable!
> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)

klaus.knebel@mero.de

2006-09-23, 8:01 am

Hi
I had many problem too using IVF
I liked CVF very much. Too bad it is gone.
I now use FTN + Winteracter and I am happy with this

Klaus

unix_guru

2006-09-23, 7:00 pm

On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 02:58:47 GMT, Jim Klein
<jameseklein@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>
>Hi,
>
>This will sound like a flame but I swear to all the GODS that it is
>not intended to be one.
>
>I have blown 3 10 hour days trying to install Vs 2005 and then Vs
>2003 with Inter fortan 9.0 and 9.1, trying to copile and link, from
>batch files running Polyhedron's AUTOMAKE, a relatively simple FORTRAN
>(using Winteracter) code.
>
>It has been a disaster, meaning that the un-install does not get rid
>of the installation under Win 2000 Pro. After un-istalling VS 2003 and
>2005 and Intel Fortarn 9.0 and 9.1, I am unable to re-install anything
>of INTEL Fortran. Putting the Intel Fortran disk in the machine
>results, even after a re-boot, in a message that the install is still
>running. The MS software acts more like a VIRUS on my PC than a real
>program.

i have similar setup vs2005 and intel C & F installed. i installed F
into wrong place, did uninstall, etc, could NOT reinstall.

intel un-install sucks donkey balls, it leaves shit everywhere..

you have to edit the registry, delete ALL entries and keys associated
with fortran, also in the windows/install/... there is an intel
directory for fortran. it is not obvious as they are listed by CLSID,
so you have to check the ini. also remove all entries in the path and
ALL associated environmental variables. eventually you will clean it
up enough to reinstall. took about 30 min to clean reg.
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Jim Klein

2006-09-23, 7:00 pm

unix_guru <sartre@3rdplanet.nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 02:58:47 GMT, Jim Klein
><jameseklein@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>i have similar setup vs2005 and intel C & F installed. i installed F
>into wrong place, did uninstall, etc, could NOT reinstall.
>
>intel un-install sucks donkey balls, it leaves shit everywhere..

I like that. I was starting to think my IQ had dropped to the
management level after yesterdays futile attempt. Yes, donkey ball is
a better description than I was capable of coming up with.
>
> you have to edit the registry, delete ALL entries and keys associated
>with fortran, also in the windows/install/... there is an intel
>directory for fortran. it is not obvious as they are listed by CLSID,
>so you have to check the ini. also remove all entries in the path and
>ALL associated environmental variables. eventually you will clean it
>up enough to reinstall. took about 30 min to clean reg.

Life is not supposed to be this Fing difficult.

Thanks for the info. I will go have two or three beers and start
again.

Jim

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James E. Klein
jameseklein@earthlink.net

Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com
ecalculations@ecalculations.com
Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows and (soon) MAC OSX
Free KDP-2 (DEMO) downloadable!
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)

Jim Klein

2006-09-23, 7:00 pm

klaus.knebel@mero.de wrote:

>Hi
>I had many problem too using IVF
>I liked CVF very much. Too bad it is gone.
>I now use FTN + Winteracter and I am happy with this
>
>Klaus

You mean it isn't just me being inept ? God, I feel better.

I was considering ABSOFT.

I know the problem is not Winteracter. I love Winteracter and Lawson
is one

dude. I will look at FTN.

Jim

James E. Klein
jameseklein@earthlink.net

Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com
ecalculations@ecalculations.com
Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows and (soon) MAC OSX
Free KDP-2 (DEMO) downloadable!
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)

Jim Klein

2006-09-23, 7:00 pm

"Edmund" <edunlop@utvinternet.ie> wrote:
[color=darkred]
>James,
>
>I use Intel Fortran/C++ and Winteracter and VS2005 with no problems -
>but I did have to work a bit to set things up.
>
>The INCLUDE, LIB and PATH environment variables are crucial for what
>you are trying to do.
>
>Some of my environment variables are as follows (I have chosen ones
>that are relevant plus a few that maybe aren't - but are in "just in
>case"):
>
>CommonProgramFiles=C:\Program Files\Common Files
>DevEnvDir=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\Common7\IDE
>FP_NO_HOST_CHECK=NO
>FrameworkDir=C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework
>FrameworkSDKDir=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\SDK\v2.0
>FrameworkVersion=v2.0.50727
>ICPP_COMPILER91=C:\Program Files\Intel\Compiler\C++\9.1
>IDB_PATH=C:\Program Files\Intel\
>IFORT_COMPILER91=C:\Program Files\Intel\Compiler\Fortran\9.1
>
>INCLUDE=
>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\ATLMFC\INCLUDE;
>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\INCLUDE;
>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\PlatformSDK\include;
>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\SDK\v2.0\include;
>C:\Program Files\HTML Help Workshop\include;
>C:\Program Files\Intel\Compiler\C++\9.1\IA32\Include;
>C:\Program Files\Intel\Compiler\Fortran\9.1\IA32\Include
>
>INTEL_LICENSE_FILE=C:\Program Files\Common Files\Intel\Licenses
>INTEL_SHARED=C:\Program Files\Common Files\Intel\Shared Files
>
>LIB=
>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\ATLMFC\LIB;
>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\LIB;
>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\PlatformSDK\lib;
>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\SDK\v2.0\lib;
>C:\Program Files\HTML Help Workshop\lib;
>C:\Program Files\Intel\Compiler\C++\9.1\IA32\Lib;
>C:\Program Files\Intel\Compiler\Fortran\9.1\IA32\Lib
>
>LIBPATH=
>C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727;
>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\ATLMFC\LIB
>
>Path=
>C:\Program Files\Common Files\Intel\Shared Files\Ia32\Bin;
>c:\wint\BIN;
>C:\Program Files\HTML Help Workshop;
>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\Common7\IDE;
>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\BIN;
>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\Common7\Tools;
>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\Common7\Tools\bin;
>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\PlatformSDK\bin;
>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\SDK\v2.0\bin;
>C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727;
>C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\VCPackages;
>C:\plusFORT;
>C:\Program Files\Intel\Compiler\C++\9.1\IA32\Bin;
>C:\Program Files\Intel\Compiler\Fortran\9.1\IA32\Bin;
>C:\Program Files\Intel\IDB\9.1\IA32\Script
>
>ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
>VCINSTALLDIR=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC
>VS80COMNTOOLS=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\Common7\Tools\
>VSINSTALLDIR=C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8
>
>WINTER=c:\wint
>
>You should check that you have equivalents of these to match your
>installation directories.
>
>I agree with you that Winteracter support is excellent (Lawson
>Wakefield) - he has helped me lots also.
>
>Don't get disheartened - many times I have felt similarly -
>particularly with Microsoft's works and pomps - but it is possible to
>overcome same.
>
>Personally, I ignore VS and use either batch development or (most of
>the time) the very user-friendly WiDE.
>
>I don't know how you can deal with your reinstallation problems -
>perhaps somebody else can help with that one.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Edmund Dunlop.
>
> ========================================
===============
>
>Jim Klein wrote:
>

First, I want to thank you very musch for this technically detailed
reply. I will try to take advantage of all of your input.

But, HOLY SHIT ! Life was supposed to be this difficult in the old
DOS, 16-bit world where you had to issue virtual key strokes to change
the screen color becase MS was too lazy to make a real OS.

After I solve this problem, I'll have the knowledge of tha ages and I
can hack :-)
James E. Klein
jameseklein@earthlink.net

Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com
ecalculations@ecalculations.com
Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows and (soon) MAC OSX
Free KDP-2 (DEMO) downloadable!
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)

Kamaraju Kusumanchi

2006-09-23, 10:00 pm

Jim Klein wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> This will sound like a flame but I swear to all the GODS that it is
> not intended to be one.
>
> I have blown 3 10 hour days trying to install Vs 2005 and then Vs
> 2003 with Inter fortan 9.0 and 9.1, trying to copile and link, from
> batch files running Polyhedron's AUTOMAKE, a relatively simple FORTRAN
> (using Winteracter) code.

A happy debian Linux user here with huge smirk on his face as it takes
just two commands to install gfortran, automake which in the end
consumes about 1 minute...

For those wondering what those magic two commands are

apt-get update
apt-get install gfortran automake

Uninstalling is easy as installing.

apt-get remove gfortran automake

Free software rocks!

hth
raju

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