Functional - Trolling, Request to shift the thread to c.l.f. completely: Was:

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Trolling, Request to shift the thread to c.l.f. completely: Was:

Markus

2007-07-28, 7:06 pm

> Markus E.L. escreveu:
> [snipped]
>
>
> Hey man! How inconsistent are willing to go? Your argument: "People,
> grow up. This is usenet:" _But_ if people respond to Jon's crossposted
> posts you childly complain: "No reason to bring your venom to c.l.f."
>
> What's the e-address of the teacher of yours?

Want to learn the technique? :-).

>
> Which, brings to the kernel of reason people starts to find evidence
> your trolling as well. . .

Yes, I can see that. C.l.l. is for gloryfiying Lisp. Nothing else. And
people who find that strange, are trolls.

> [snipped]
>
>
> So your behaviour is recurrent...

Only rarely and only with an audience lacking insight or self
critique. Never mind. if you and your companions don't understand the
problem you yourself are (probably even to yourself and your own
goals), I can't help it. But commiseration from my side is rather
limited: If Jon is trolling (which I'm not intrested to judge) you
certainly seem to earn it.

:-)

>
> JH interest in 'listening' arguments to c.l.l is another very loaded
> assertion of yours. He's fishing here all the rebuttals c.l.l
> gratuitously offer him. What uses he makes of them is OT in this
> discussion.

Is that assessment based on irrefutable facts or just on
_interpretation_?

Some of you people from the beat-JH-faction are rather
unrelaxed. Instead of ignoring him (if he was a troll that would be
your only practical option) you just insist on the rest of the world
sharing your assessment. And then you go to war with the people who
don't. I don't think that will really yield the intended result,
always supposing the goal is peace and harmony in c.l.l. and not war
against <whomever>.

But never mind: You are welcome to your community. Jon, in my opinion
is not a spammer (is not outside c.l.l.) but certainly a fool trying
to talk to such a self contained community as c.l.l. seems to be: The
effort is ill spent, and it's hardly thinkable that the resulting
flame wars will get him any customers there (if that should be the
purpose), quite the opposite.

Jon: As far as I'm concerned, You're always welcome to compare Lisp
against whatever at c.l.f. I think the various differences between
implementations of FPLs and the tradeoffs (historical or necessary)
are on topic in c.l.f. Im not speaking for the whole of c.l.f.

My request to Mark Tarver: Wouldn't the benchmarking rather belong to
c.l.f instead of being cross posted to both groups? It totally belongs
to c.l.f but Lispers might take offence at the presence of other
languages in the benchmark and perhaps also any discussions resulting
from that. On the other side interested parties can always subscribe
to c.l.f which hasn't got so much traffic.

Thanks for listening to all concerned.

Regards -- Markus

Ken Tilton

2007-07-29, 4:18 am

Jon Harrop wrote:
> When I post clarifications I'm not addressing the vocal die-hard Lispers who
> struggle with arithmetic, I'm trying to help the newbies who are being
> misled.
>
> I'd do the same thing if I saw a child being taught scientific creationism,
> for example.

You'd tell them about the stork?

kenny

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