| James J. Gavan 2008-02-19, 6:58 pm |
| Clark F Morris wrote:
> Interestingly, in the Canadian Military the chaplains have the title
> Padre regardless of creed.
It's the same in the UK. Mind you even if the padre was a group captain
(brigadier), we always called the Catholic padre 'Father'; sometimes we
might throw in a 'sir'.
In the RAF we had to do periodic physical counts from our personnel
records arriving at totals for :-
- C of E(ngland) = Anglicans
- Roman Catholics
- OD (Other Denominations) - that would have included Jerry if he had
been in the RAF. Guess this one included Agnostics and Atheists as well.
Where camps in UK didn't have padres but were 'serviced' by civilian
honorary chaplains, these returns determined what the Air Ministry paid
them, based on the headcount. Overseas of course there were
chaplains/padres. With the sunset on the British Empire, apart from
Afghanistan, I don't think there can be too many British military
overseas (???), so chaplains wouldn't be warranted.
Clark, I'm assuming you are in the East, but for Bill's info, and I
referred to this a couple of years back. Homosexuality was going to
create a problem in the Anglican church, certainly the Canadian branch.
Female priests seem to be acceptable. What's the opposite of padre,
'Mater' ?
I already knew that Anglicans in Africa and South America are very
conservative in their thinking, and their cultural beliefs apparently
don't accept homosexuality, which isn't to say that homosexuality isn't
practiced on those Continents.
However, one at least and perhaps a couple of other churches in
Vancouver, B.C., don't buy into the acceptance of homosexuality; I think
the tipping point was the ordination of homosexuals. What's happening
now ? They, (the rebels), are opting out of Canadian Anglicanism and are
going to submit, at arm's length, to some bishop(s) in South America.
I guess when the switch occurs, the Vancouverites are going to have to
learn to say :-
"Por favor, Padre"
so they don't step on somebody's toes.
It will be messy because the Vancouver diocese, while unhappy about this
change of allegiance has already pointedly said, they, (the rebels),
wont be taking their church property (buildings) with them. Ughh !
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As Tweety Pie used to say, "That's all folks !". I only popped in here
this past w , just out of curiosity, to see what was going on. Perhaps
I'll take a look in July. By then the religious threads will be dead,
hopefully ! It's off-topic. but if somebody asks, "How does this work in
your religion ....", It's an honest question. However once you start
proclaiming dogma or challenge somebody else's dogma, it's a
non-starter, and you can put money on it, no-one is going to be
convinced and convert to another belief system.
Jimmy, Calgary
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