| Judson McClendon 2008-02-13, 6:55 pm |
| "tlmfru" <lacey@mts.net> wrote:
> Alistair <alistair@ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> This is the same as saying that all of history is predetermined. Or, at the
> very least, already known to God. Therefore, unless there is some part of
> existence that is not affected by the Bible, everything we do is
> predetermined or known to God. Predestination.
Predestination and free will are both true. When viewed in a framework
where every individual is free to make their own decisions, but where
God sees all time from His perspective and allows for every decision
and every action, and decides precisely when and how He intervenes,
there is no conflict between free will and predestination. People who
see a conflict, simply have too limited a view. When Jesus was asked
how He could be greater than Abraham, Jesus responded "Before
Abraham was, I Am." God told Moses to say that "I Am" sent him.
With God, at least for this universe, all time is in the present tense for
Him. God *is* at the Creation, just as He *is* at the Judgment, and
just as Jesus *is* before Abraham.
> Which brings up an interesting question. I was out golfing last summer and
> (as is always the case, damn it) drove into a nasty thicket. I found my own
> ball and another one with the logo of a local radio station. Later on I
> used that ball and lost it in another thicket. So, if predestination is a
> fact, God must have wanted that ball moved from one thicket to another, by
> ME, on such and such a date and at a particular time. No woder he must be
> infinite if he's micromanaging at that level! :-)
That doesn't even scratch the surface of what I believe to be the reality.
I believe that God is constantly, not only aware of every subatomic
particle in existence, but constantly willing it to exist (Colossians 1:17).
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Judson McClendon judmc@sunvaley0.com (remove zero)
Sun Valley Systems http://sunvaley.com
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that
whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
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