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Pete Dashwood

2007-09-26, 9:55 pm



"Alistair" <alistair@ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1190834399.903177.55270@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
> On 26 Sep, 16:17, donald tees <donaldt...@execulink.com> wrote:
>
> Just a quickie - is that Christ's teachings or is it St. John The
> Baptists's teachings as repeated or modified by Christ?
>

(Both John the Baptist and Jesus were members of the extreme sect, the
Essenes, so it is likely they would share a few ideas :-) Notice that both
of them came to a sticky end, also. Probably a club best avoided...)

Or is it the teaching of Jesus as modified and interpreted by the
Organization set up after His death?

Unless we were actually at the Mount and heard the sermon, who knows what
was actually said? As the technology of the time did not admit to actual
voice recording, and we don't have a Time Machine to take us back there, it
has to be subject to question. We can agree that what has come to us is
beautiful and inspiring, but we don't know how much is what Jesus actually
said and how much has been "improved and gilded" by the Scribes.

(I love the scene in "Life of Brian" where the people at the back of the
crowd have trouble hearing and start fighting amongst themselves... "Did He
say the Grs will inherit the Earth?...I knew a Gr once..." " Shut up,
Big nose, I can't hear what He's saying." Although it is very funny, it is
also very real.)

The best we can do is take what is useful and inspiring, whether it came
from Jesus or not...

Is it an inner "faith" that lets us do this, or is it just plain common
sense?

Pete.
--
"I used to write COBOL...now I can do anything."


Doug Miller

2007-09-26, 9:55 pm

In article <5m0g24FatgtjU1@mid.individual.net>, "Pete Dashwood" <dashwood@removethis.enternet.co.nz> wrote:

>(I love the scene in "Life of Brian" where the people at the back of the
>crowd have trouble hearing and start fighting amongst themselves... "Did He
>say the Grs will inherit the Earth?...I knew a Gr once..." " Shut up,
>Big nose, I can't hear what He's saying." Although it is very funny, it is
>also very real.)


My favorite was the scene in which Brian is running through the desert to
escape the pursuing crowd, and stumbles over a hermit who'd taken a vow of
silence. Angered at being disturbed, he curses Brian, and is then horrified at
having broken his vow. Brian stammers an apology and runs off. Presently the
crowd appears; the leaders ask the hermit if he's seen Brian. The old hermit,
still fuming, grumbles "I hadn't spoken for thirty years --"

"Another miracle!!" shouts the crowd, as they race off in pursuit again.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphag at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
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