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William M. Klein

2007-09-24, 6:56 pm

"tlmfru" <lacey@mts.net> wrote in message
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> Judson McClendon <judmc@sunvaley0.com> wrote in message news:9wBJi.55413> >
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> Judson, you said you didn't want another religious discussion; I'd suggest
> you'd have been better off not to start it at all. You knew perfectly well
> that people would take you up on your statements.
>
> PL
>

Judson answered MY quesiton and given that (at least) one of my assumptions on
where we agreed was false, I have not added to the discussion.

The only thing more "divisive" than discussions between "Christians" and
"non-Christians" are those between "Christians" with different understandings
of Christianity!!! <G>>

--
Bill Klein
wmklein <at> ix.netcom.com

Doug Miller

2007-09-24, 6:56 pm

In article <7VVJi.111313$tu2.30117@fe09.news.easynews.com>, "William M. Klein" <wmklein@nospam.netcom.com> wrote:

>The only thing more "divisive" than discussions between "Christians" and
>"non-Christians" are those between "Christians" with different understandings
>of Christianity!!! <G>>

Hoo boy, isn't that the truth. As a Roman Catholic, some of the conversations
I've had with evangelical Christians at work have been, um, interesting.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphag

at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Howard Brazee

2007-09-25, 6:55 pm

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:23:15 GMT, "William M. Klein"
<wmklein@nospam.netcom.com> wrote:

>The only thing more "divisive" than discussions between "Christians" and
>"non-Christians" are those between "Christians" with different understandings
>of Christianity!!! <G>>

Sunnis vs Shiite divisions seem to be at least as divisive.

SkippyPB

2007-09-25, 6:55 pm

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:49:54 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

>In article <7VVJi.111313$tu2.30117@fe09.news.easynews.com>, "William M. Klein" <wmklein@nospam.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>
>Hoo boy, isn't that the truth. As a Roman Catholic, some of the conversations
>I've had with evangelical Christians at work have been, um, interesting.

I too am Roman Catholic. I love talking about the Bible with Jehova's
Witness people when they come to my door wanting me to read
Watchtower. They get real annoyed when I call them heathens.

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HeyBub

2007-09-25, 6:55 pm

SkippyPB wrote:
>
> I too am Roman Catholic. I love talking about the Bible with Jehova's
> Witness people when they come to my door wanting me to read
> Watchtower. They get real annoyed when I call them heathens.
>

If you really want to see 'em twitch, show them the origin of the word
"Jehovah."

Moses didn't know the word, Jesus didn't know the word. "Jehovah" started
out as a mistake in translation by Martin Luther when he used the consonants
of one Hebrew word with the vowels from a completely different word to get a
third word which, in turn, was translitered from German into English.

Doug Miller

2007-09-25, 6:55 pm

In article <1biif31ireqcjft2mi3npf7gdan652nvvk@4ax.com>, SkippyPB <swiegand@nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:49:54 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
>wrote:
>
> <wmklein@nospam.netcom.com> wrote:
> understandings
>
>I too am Roman Catholic. I love talking about the Bible with Jehova's
>Witness people when they come to my door wanting me to read
>Watchtower. They get real annoyed when I call them heathens.

The JWs usually leave my doorstep pretty quickly when I tell them we're Roman
Catholic. Might be the slight stress I place on the word "Roman"...

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphag

at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Howard Brazee

2007-09-25, 6:55 pm

On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:12:07 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:

>
>The JWs usually leave my doorstep pretty quickly when I tell them we're Roman
>Catholic. Might be the slight stress I place on the word "Roman"...

I don't mind them. Anybody who tells me that if I am not saved, I
will die is quite pleasant compared to anybody who tells me that if I
am not saved, I will be eternally tortured.

I really don't understand how anybody could stay sane who truly
believed strangers, acquaintances, friends, and family will be
tortured beyond all understanding forever and ever without hope of
parole.

Heck, I couldn't take it if the most evil person in the world was so
tortured. I just don't have that extreme level of hatred to turn
myself that evil.

Pete Dashwood

2007-09-26, 3:55 am

"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:12:07 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
> wrote:
>
>
> I don't mind them. Anybody who tells me that if I am not saved, I
> will die is quite pleasant compared to anybody who tells me that if I
> am not saved, I will be eternally tortured.
>
> I really don't understand how anybody could stay sane who truly
> believed strangers, acquaintances, friends, and family will be
> tortured beyond all understanding forever and ever without hope of
> parole.
>
> Heck, I couldn't take it if the most evil person in the world was so
> tortured. I just don't have that extreme level of hatred to turn
> myself that evil.

In the world 3500 years ago, it was probably seen as OK. Leadership had to
be strong and punishments were harsh. Simple people figured the harsher the
punishment, the greater the leader.

We moved on, but the scriptures didn't, and cannot.

That's why the truly wise teachers (who all lived within about 900 years of
each other and, in my opinion, were definitely influenced by each other),
never required punishment, never preached fire and brimstone, focusing
instead on doing good and treating your fellow man well. (Gautama Buddha,
Jesus, Lao Tze, Confucius...)

Pete.
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