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Author How to port Tandem COBOL??
kobayaschi@gmail.com

2007-05-21, 7:55 am

Hi !

Our customer is looking for solution to migrate existing Tandem system
applications to other platform.

The existing Nonstop system works based on COBOL/SCOBOL/TAL written
programs.
These programs using NONSTOP/SQL, ENSCRIBE FILES.

Is there any used/worked solution from somebody??

Thx.

Pete Dashwood

2007-05-21, 7:55 am


<kobayaschi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179726527.696836.176080@y2g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Hi !
>
> Our customer is looking for solution to migrate existing Tandem system
> applications to other platform.
>
> The existing Nonstop system works based on COBOL/SCOBOL/TAL written
> programs.
> These programs using NONSTOP/SQL, ENSCRIBE FILES.
>
> Is there any used/worked solution from somebody??
>
> Thx.
>


How could you possibly expect a serious helpful reply without stating the
platform being migrated to? I've been involved in a number of migrations and
one of them did involve Tandem COBOL, but I'm making no further comment
until you post proper details.

Pete.


don_fitzgerald@web.de

2007-05-21, 6:55 pm

My goodness, but some of us are soooo superior in our knowledge, and
soooo supercilious in our answers.

If you have a reasonable answer, why not simply give it ? The
requestor probably does not know what platform they plan to move too,
as they don't know what options there are. If you don't have a
reasonable answer, maybe it would be better if you simply kept out of
it.

Don


On 21 Mai, 12:03, "Pete Dashwood" <dashw...@removethis.enternet.co.nz>
wrote:
> <kobayas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1179726527.696836.176080@y2g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> How could you possibly expect a serious helpful reply without stating the
> platform being migrated to? I've been involved in a number of migrations and
> one of them did involve Tandem COBOL, but I'm making no further comment
> until you post proper details.
>
> Pete.



Pete Dashwood

2007-05-21, 9:55 pm


<don_fitzgerald@web.de> wrote in message
news:1179766217.185411.11660@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
> On 21 Mai, 18:02, SkippyPB <swieg...@nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote:
>
> OK - I stand corrected on this one. Perhaps the best solution would
> simply be to ignore the guy ?
>

Thanks for that statement.

As a general rule regular posters here (like me) are very happy to help
(without being superior about it... I have had help from enough people in my
career to recognise that we all need it occasionally. In fact, one reason I
post here is in order to give something back...)

Ignoring posters is generally unhelpful, but there are reasonable statements
of a problem that allow us to give useful help.

Pete.



Alistair

2007-05-22, 9:55 pm

On 21 May, 23:44, docdw...@panix.com () wrote:
> In article <1179778720.440830.29...@x18g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Alistair <alist...@ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>
> [snip]
>
>
> [snip]
>
>
> But... this wasn't homework, Mr Maclean... it was the guy's actual *job*,
> or attempt thereat.
>
> Doesn't that count for *something*?
>
> (Well... perhaps that depends on whether or not 'something' can be
> negative.)
>
> DD


Being unemployed and probably unemployable then I would say that
unless he could do the job then he should not fake it and stop honest
people from taking the job. Mean? yes. Bitter? yes. Tough.

And I do recall that you have provided me with information in the past
(which I passed on to my boozy chum) and I am grateful for that.
Thanks.

2007-05-22, 9:55 pm

In article <1179857844.735802.168360@p47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
Alistair <alistair@ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>On 21 May, 23:44, docdw...@panix.com () wrote:


[snip]

>And I do recall that you have provided me with information in the past
>(which I passed on to my boozy chum) and I am grateful for that.
>Thanks.


Already been said, old boy, and there's no need to repeat yourself. If
you so desire you might wish to consider telling your
partner-in-bibulousness (a booz'um buddy?) that *his* debt will be
satisfied by assisting your job-search.

DD

Alistair

2007-05-23, 6:55 pm

On 23 May, 01:39, docdw...@panix.com () wrote:
> In article <1179857844.735802.168...@p47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Alistair <alist...@ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>
> Already been said, old boy, and there's no need to repeat yourself. If
> you so desire you might wish to consider telling your
> partner-in-bibulousness (a booz'um buddy?) that *his* debt will be
> satisfied by assisting your job-search.
>
> DD


My booz'm buddy already has assisted me in job searching.
Unfortunately, he has a track record of being made redundant from
companies and I fear that, after his current project has completed
phase 3, he will be made redundant again.

2007-05-23, 6:55 pm

In article <1179927446.621354.276050@q66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
Alistair <alistair@ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>On 23 May, 01:39, docdw...@panix.com () wrote:
>
>My booz'm buddy already has assisted me in job searching.


Consider:

'This debt will be satisfied by your doing a task.'

'I did a task.'

''To have done' is not the same as 'doing'... get doing, please.'

>Unfortunately, he has a track record of being made redundant from
>companies and I fear that, after his current project has completed
>phase 3, he will be made redundant again.


All the more time he'll have to get to assisting you, then.

DD

kobayaschi@gmail.com

2007-05-25, 3:55 am

Good Day For All!

First of all i do not really wanted to bother or hurt anybody. Sorry
if i did....

I am a Tandem expert since 1998.
I wont tell the company what we working for, cause my managers will
kick my...

Our customer is a telecommunication company size of ~1.5M customer.
Daily average ~8M CDR.
Our database ~3Tbyte.
Our code is ~4M lines of code.

As u see the project to port to something is not a piece of cake....

The reason to PING the forum was to see is there any kind of company
who made any kind of porting from Tandem.

And the main reason was to see ANY kind of possibilities. We had not
made any kind of statement to our customer, so NO choosed platform.

Right now we try to make a VERY HIGH LEVEL SCOPE about the
possibilities... After this short doc we will invsetigate each one.

I do know companies like LegacJ, AEI,etc.. where we found solutions
for porting.. I just guessed this forum might saw others made such a
work...

So lastly again i do not wanted to hurt u community....
Thx..

Pete Dashwood =EDrta:
> <don_fitzgerald@web.de> wrote in message
> news:1179759057.039199.310210@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> Not at all. People need information in order to assist.
>
> I don't have a reasonable answer until I know what the question is.
>
> If you think that's supercilious, perhaps you are used to looser problem
> solution than I am.
>
> If, as you assume, the requestor doesn't know what they're moving to or w=

hat
> their options are then maybe they should formulate that into their request
> for help.
>
> My post was intended ot convey that I MIGHT be able to help.
>
> What exactly was the point of yours?
>
> Pete.


Pete Dashwood

2007-05-25, 3:55 am

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<kobayaschi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1180069727.248639.8120@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Good Day For All!

First of all i do not really wanted to bother or hurt anybody. Sorry
if i did....

No, you didn't. You posted in good faith.

Don't worry about it.

Hope you find a solution.

Pete.



2007-05-25, 7:55 am

In article <1180069727.248639.8120@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
kobayaschi@gmail.com <kobayaschi@gmail.com> wrote:
>Good Day For All!
>
>First of all i do not really wanted to bother or hurt anybody. Sorry
>if i did....


IF someone is hurt by what went on here then maybe it is best they know,
now, how truly delicate they may be.

>
>I am a Tandem expert since 1998.


That is only half the situation. The other half is expertise in the
platform to which you wish to port the application... and you don't know
what that might yet be.

[snip]

>As u see the project to port to something is not a piece of cake....


Not at all. It may be a very difficult task and require knowledge that is
both rare and expensive.

[snip]

>Right now we try to make a VERY HIGH LEVEL SCOPE about the
>possibilities... After this short doc we will invsetigate each one.


The project is still in very early stages, then, and careful attention
must be paid so that an inappropriate solution is not chosen.

DD
Alistair

2007-05-25, 7:55 am

On 25 May, 06:08, "kobayas...@gmail.com" <kobayas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good Day For All!
>
> First of all i do not really wanted to bother or hurt anybody. Sorry
> if i did....
>
> I am a Tandem expert since 1998.
> I wont tell the company what we working for, cause my managers will
> kick my...
>
> Our customer is a telecommunication company size of ~1.5M customer.
> Daily average ~8M CDR.
> Our database ~3Tbyte.
> Our code is ~4M lines of code.
>
> As u see the project to port to something is not a piece of cake....
>
> The reason to PING the forum was to see is there any kind of company
> who made any kind of porting from Tandem.
>
> And the main reason was to see ANY kind of possibilities. We had not
> made any kind of statement to our customer, so NO choosed platform.
>
> Right now we try to make a VERY HIGH LEVEL SCOPE about the
> possibilities... After this short doc we will invsetigate each one.
>
> I do know companies like LegacJ, AEI,etc.. where we found solutions
> for porting.. I just guessed this forum might saw others made such a
> work...
>
> So lastly again i do not wanted to hurt u community....
> Thx..
>


You might like to look at http://www.actscorp.com/reboothill.htm as a
warning about how not to do the conversion.

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