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Chuck Stevens

2006-06-05, 6:55 pm

Only G&S I actually sang in was HMS Pinafore. I don't think I'll ever
forget the opening chorus. I'm pretty sure this is correct:

We sail the ocean blue,
And our saucy ship's a beauty.
We're sober men and true,
And attentive to our duty.
When the balls whistle free o'er the bright blue sea
We stand to our guns all day;
When at anchor we ride o'er the Portsmouth tide,
We've plenty of time for play (Yo-ho, Yo-ho)!

Wonder if Sir William would have used the same words today ...

-Chuck Stevens

"James J. Gavan" <jgavandeletethis@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Chuck Stevens wrote:
> Agreed. Memories of childhood - 1941/42 aged 10/11. Elementary school we
> did Mikado. Yours truly had first solo as Pish Tush - from memory :-
>
> Our great Mikado,
> Virtuous Man,
> When he to rule this land began.
> Resolved to try,
> A plan whereby,
> Young men might best be suited
>
> So, he decreed in words extinct,
> That all who flirted, leered, or winked,
> Should forwith be beheaded,
> Beheaded, Bheeeeaaded ... etc...
>
> A priest up front was controlling the lighting and switched a moving
> colour fan on me. I was mesmerized - I went through the first verse about
> four times before I remembered the second.
>
> I can't read a note of music but as part of a foursome had to sing the
> madrigal (?), "Brightly shines our Wedding Day.....". I *think* I was
> supposed to sing alto (?) with one other, but always dropped back into the
> main theme overpowered by the other two singers.
>
> Then my wife's old grammar school, Ashford Middlesex, where the Old
> Ashfordians had a G & S Club. Saw about four of their shows, including
> Mikado, where one scene was updated by the chorus girls doing an impromptu
> 'Let's twist again...' to G & S music :-)
>
> Jimmy



SkippyPB

2006-06-17, 7:55 am

On Thu, 8 Jun 2006 09:14:12 +1200, "Pete Dashwood"
<dashwood@enternet.co.nz> enlightened us:

>
>"Alistair" <alistair@ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:1149610080.106989.188090@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>Absolutely!
>
>The statute of limitations on that is nowwhere near up in my book... :-)
>
>Pete.
>



Anyone who is over the age of N'Sync know that the French are a
mongrel race that never should have survived the plagues, Middle Ages,
or the Germans. Just look at old King Louis XIV. He represents what
the French themselves call the "high point" of their "culture". And
what is he? A dude in drag wearing silk undies and high heel shoes and
a wig.

Here are ten reasons to hate the French:

1. Girard Depardeu.
America gave them Jerry Lewis and they gave us Depardeu.

2. Marcel Marceau.
The English invent rugby, the Scots have the highland games, America
invents football, the Afghans play polo with a baby goat's head. And
the French give us guys in tight white pants pretending to put their
hands on invisible glass.

3. Pastry. Think about world cuisine. Asians eat dog and monkey
brain. People of Celtic origin eat blood pudding and sheep entrails.
Germans gave us hotdogs. And the French? Pink pastry made from "puff"
dough. What, are they afraid they'll hurt their delicate little French
tongues chewing bacon or sausage?

4. Wine, Wine Coolers, Wine-in-a-Box. Sticking with the international
comparison theme...The Scots and Irish invent whiskey. The Germans and
English give us ale that will grow hair on your toes. America invents
crank and crack. And France's contribution to the the world panoply of
sedation? Wine ers.

5. Soccer. Only slightly less gay than mimery, the French have given
the world soccer. What kind of a gay sport is this? Guys in little
white shorts and spandex gloves with no fingers running around a field
together like a pack of homo-geese. Is it a coincidence that the most
popular "sport" at the special olympics is soccer? In a recently
declassified CIA document the government has revealed that soccer,
like Girard Depardieu, is a French attempt to subvert American
manhood. Don't let it happen. Keep your kids from playing this fairy
sport, unless they are girls or retarded.

6. The French Language. I swear the REAL translation of virtually
every French phrase is "I'm a soccer-playing, pastry-eating mime!" The
real reason the Germans keep invading France is that they are sick of
hearing men whine in this dialect like drunken drooling babies.

7. Berets. Where to even begin with this one? Of all the things you
can put on your head ~ a stocking cap, a baseball hat, a cowboy hat, a
coonskin cap ~ why in the world would you want to wear a beret?
Because your FRENCH, that's why!

8. Eurotrash. Europe used to be the domain of proud warriors. Manly
men who hunted, logged, invaded and killed one another for sport. Now,
Europe is run over by Eurofags and Eurotrash like this. The whole
continent is disco dancing, doing coke, and wearing pleated pants and
silk shirts. Can you even imagine if the Huns, Mongols or Vikings were
to invade today? This is the main reason the countries of the British
Isles want nothing to do with the European Union.

9. Olympic Opening Ceremonies. Once, the Olympics were a gathering of
men to perform manly sport, like weight lifting, running, javelin
throwing, etc. Now, thanks to the French, it's a gathering of doped-up
"athletes" and bribed judges doing ice dancing and that thing where
the guy in tights runs around with a stick and a ribbon tied to it.
Nothing better symbolizes this French faggotization of the Olympics
than the opening ceremonies, where guys in spandex dressed like
squirrels do "interpretive" group dances symbolizing pastry or mimery.

10. Chicks with Pit Hair. During the height of what they called
"French culture" their kings and nobles wore silk panties, wigs, and
high heels, Today their men wear silk panties, berets, eat pink pastry
and mime. So I guess we shouldn't be TOO surprised that their women
don't shave their pits.

Note: This list (which must have been put together by someone who is
a secret homophobic) was culled from an old website that has long ago
bitten the old cyber dust. The author was credited as Link Hoggthrob.
Whatever, I found it pretty funny and wanted to share since it seemed
apposite.

Regards,

////
(o o)
-oOO--(_)--OOo-


WOODY: "How's life treating you, Mr. Peterson?"
NORM: "Like I ran over its dog."
From the US TV show, Cheers.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Remove nospam to email me.

Steve

2006-06-17, 7:55 am

In article <cahg8297n8d2rsk9885jcjq2745i4c88tq@4ax.com>,
SkippyPB <swiegand@neo.rr.NOSPAM.com> wrote:

[snip]

>Note: This list (which must have been put together by someone who is
>a secret homophobic) was culled from an old website that has long ago
>bitten the old cyber dust.


'Secretly'?

DD

Pete Dashwood

2006-06-17, 7:55 am

ROFL! Thanks for that Steve; this is definitely a 'keeper'...

Pete.

TOP POST nothing new below...

"SkippyPB" <swiegand@neo.rr.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:cahg8297n8d2rsk9885jcjq2745i4c88tq@
4ax.com...
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2006 09:14:12 +1200, "Pete Dashwood"
> <dashwood@enternet.co.nz> enlightened us:
>
>
>
> Anyone who is over the age of N'Sync know that the French are a
> mongrel race that never should have survived the plagues, Middle Ages,
> or the Germans. Just look at old King Louis XIV. He represents what
> the French themselves call the "high point" of their "culture". And
> what is he? A dude in drag wearing silk undies and high heel shoes and
> a wig.
>
> Here are ten reasons to hate the French:
>
> 1. Girard Depardeu.
> America gave them Jerry Lewis and they gave us Depardeu.
>
> 2. Marcel Marceau.
> The English invent rugby, the Scots have the highland games, America
> invents football, the Afghans play polo with a baby goat's head. And
> the French give us guys in tight white pants pretending to put their
> hands on invisible glass.
>
> 3. Pastry. Think about world cuisine. Asians eat dog and monkey
> brain. People of Celtic origin eat blood pudding and sheep entrails.
> Germans gave us hotdogs. And the French? Pink pastry made from "puff"
> dough. What, are they afraid they'll hurt their delicate little French
> tongues chewing bacon or sausage?
>
> 4. Wine, Wine Coolers, Wine-in-a-Box. Sticking with the international
> comparison theme...The Scots and Irish invent whiskey. The Germans and
> English give us ale that will grow hair on your toes. America invents
> crank and crack. And France's contribution to the the world panoply of
> sedation? Wine ers.
>
> 5. Soccer. Only slightly less gay than mimery, the French have given
> the world soccer. What kind of a gay sport is this? Guys in little
> white shorts and spandex gloves with no fingers running around a field
> together like a pack of homo-geese. Is it a coincidence that the most
> popular "sport" at the special olympics is soccer? In a recently
> declassified CIA document the government has revealed that soccer,
> like Girard Depardieu, is a French attempt to subvert American
> manhood. Don't let it happen. Keep your kids from playing this fairy
> sport, unless they are girls or retarded.
>
> 6. The French Language. I swear the REAL translation of virtually
> every French phrase is "I'm a soccer-playing, pastry-eating mime!" The
> real reason the Germans keep invading France is that they are sick of
> hearing men whine in this dialect like drunken drooling babies.
>
> 7. Berets. Where to even begin with this one? Of all the things you
> can put on your head ~ a stocking cap, a baseball hat, a cowboy hat, a
> coonskin cap ~ why in the world would you want to wear a beret?
> Because your FRENCH, that's why!
>
> 8. Eurotrash. Europe used to be the domain of proud warriors. Manly
> men who hunted, logged, invaded and killed one another for sport. Now,
> Europe is run over by Eurofags and Eurotrash like this. The whole
> continent is disco dancing, doing coke, and wearing pleated pants and
> silk shirts. Can you even imagine if the Huns, Mongols or Vikings were
> to invade today? This is the main reason the countries of the British
> Isles want nothing to do with the European Union.
>
> 9. Olympic Opening Ceremonies. Once, the Olympics were a gathering of
> men to perform manly sport, like weight lifting, running, javelin
> throwing, etc. Now, thanks to the French, it's a gathering of doped-up
> "athletes" and bribed judges doing ice dancing and that thing where
> the guy in tights runs around with a stick and a ribbon tied to it.
> Nothing better symbolizes this French faggotization of the Olympics
> than the opening ceremonies, where guys in spandex dressed like
> squirrels do "interpretive" group dances symbolizing pastry or mimery.
>
> 10. Chicks with Pit Hair. During the height of what they called
> "French culture" their kings and nobles wore silk panties, wigs, and
> high heels, Today their men wear silk panties, berets, eat pink pastry
> and mime. So I guess we shouldn't be TOO surprised that their women
> don't shave their pits.
>
> Note: This list (which must have been put together by someone who is
> a secret homophobic) was culled from an old website that has long ago
> bitten the old cyber dust. The author was credited as Link Hoggthrob.
> Whatever, I found it pretty funny and wanted to share since it seemed
> apposite.
>
> Regards,
>
> ////
> (o o)
> -oOO--(_)--OOo-
>
>
> WOODY: "How's life treating you, Mr. Peterson?"
> NORM: "Like I ran over its dog."
> From the US TV show, Cheers.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Remove nospam to email me.
>
> Steve



Pete Dashwood

2006-06-17, 7:55 am

You might be taking this altogether too seriously, Alistair :-) but I've
made a few comments anyway...

"Alistair" <alistair@ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1149791163.298865.229160@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> SkippyPB wrote:
>
> Jerry Lewis was a rubbish singer and Gerard Depardieu is a superb
> actor. Just watch his performance as Cyrano de Bergerac.
>


I agree, and Cyrano is an excellent film. But then, I enjoyed Jerry Lewis so
I'm probably not qualified to judge :-)
>
> England invented football. You Americans purloined the word and applied
> it to a game which, because of the wearing of body armour and crash
> helmets, can hardly be considered to be manly.
>


Er...since when was the wearing of body armour and crash helmets NOT manly?
I'm no expert, but I think you'll find that, with the possible exception of
Joan of Arc and a tribe of Gr leabians, ALL the wearers of body armour
throughout history have been men...:-)

Now you can argue that REAL men don't need armour (and, as a rugby supporter
I'd agree...) but that is really a different argument...
>
> Nothing wrong with sheep's entrails. Nor pig entrails (chitterlings). I
> do draw the line at cow's entrails (tripe).


You've probably never experienced honeycomb tripe gently braised in white
wine and spices and served on a bed of almond and blackberry mash... It is a
different universe from Middle England's tripe in a dreadful white sauce,
with onions... although I have to confess to having enjoyed that too after a
few dark ales... :-)
>
>
>
> You need wine ers to (most) white wines. Rough reds can be
> drunk at room temperature.
>


No you don't! You CAN wine many ways... In these days of refrigeration
simply sticking it in the fridge while you prepare dinner works pretty well.
For the less technologically inclined, an unglazed ceramic pot is very
effective if the ambient temperature is high. I was quite shocked to see
Italians actually dropping ice into their white wine and drinking it...until
I tried it. :-) It is a really good idea if you are havng lunch in a hot
climate. It also softens the alcoholic effects, at lunch time with an
afternoon of work ahead, that can be a good thing...
>
> Er, England invented that game.


Certainly, but the French popularised it internationally...Only AFTER they
won the cup, of course. France beat Brazil 3 - 0 in front of a home crowd in
1998 and since then sccer has never looked back... :-)
>
>
> But soldiers would look less butch wearing a Homburg.


LOL!
>
>
> I like armpit hair, on women, and a certain musky odour.
>

Oh puh-leeze! This is a trait that is not confined to the French. Many
European girls don't shave. (And some non-European girls don't either.) How
you feel about it is a personal thing. My experience has been that sometimes
it doesn't bother me and sometimes it does... I think it has to do with how
important it is to have sex with that particular person at that particular
moment... :-) Hirsute or not, personal hygiene seems pretty important all of
the time...

Pete.


Pete Dashwood

2006-06-17, 7:55 am


"James J. Gavan" <jgavandeletethis@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Never brave enough to try tripe.


I think the secret with food is to accept whatever's on your plate as "food"
and not dwell too long on how it got there...

A thick juicy rump steak is best NOT being thought of as the arse of a
bullock...:-)

Tripe, under certain circumstances (like being properly prepared and cooked)
can be delicious.

Haggis yes, but in SW, Somerset,
> Wilshire etc., we had our own faggotts (the ones you eat). Delicious - but
> we ate them without the nonsense of a screeching windbag in the
> background.


I also enjoy Haggis and have enjoyed the same faggots you describe. It is a
pleasant tradition here in Tauranga to attend Burn's night suppers of
traditional Haggis. It is piped into the room and I have never found that to
be offputting, in fact I think it lends ot the snses of occasion. The only
problem I have is the fact that it is traditionally served with swede, and
that is one of the very few things I just don't eat... :-)
>
> Oh for some black pudding to have with eggs, bacon, mushrooms and tomatoes
> on the side.


This hearfelt plea touched me, as I can certainly relate to it and had, by
an odd coincidence, exactly what you describe above for brunch this morning.
:-) I brunched with a friend and the bacon was manuka smoked. It is like a
Kiwi equivalent to hickory insofar as it is an aromatic shrub, but the
resemblance ends there. It was delicious. I hadn't had it before, but I
certainly shall be again. The black pudding was from a local deli and of the
spiced peppery variety which I particularly like, as opposed to the bland
sweet ones you get in the supermarket. The eggs were free range with brown
shells and bright yellow yolks. Mushrooms from the local market and supplied
from local farms (not commercially grown). Vogel's bread, NZ butter, and
fresh ground Blue Mountain coffee... life is good :-).

You can obtain superb old-fashioned black pudding from this site:
http://www.haggis.co.nz/

Unfortunately, they don't ship around the world because the stuff is shipped
frozen. There are a number of superb delis here that will ship, but not
overseas. I then did a few searches in your neck of the woods and the best I
could find:

MacEwans Meats Calgary, AB Phone: 403-228-9999
17, 9620 Elbow Dr. SW
Calgary, AB T2V 1M2

Products: Scotch Meat Pies, Bridies, Black Pudding, Haggis, Slice Sausage,
Meat Products (Beef, Pork, Poultry), Ayrshire Bacon, English Bacon
Brands: MacEwans

Might be worth a phone call?

Good luck, hope you find some..

Pete.


Pete Dashwood

2006-06-17, 7:55 am


"Holly" <anderschwan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1149827114.706199.178050@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> IMO, Soccer players are better looking than American football players.
>

Given that you can't actually SEE American football players because of all
the stuff they wear, that may not be entirely fair, Holly :-)

> At least the Italian ones are - good lord! I'm totally ready for the
> world cup.


So are around 2 billion other people :-) Maybe not forthe same reason, but
who knows? You never can tell with Soccer fans...(I played Rugby until I was
forty, and the bruises started taking longer to heal; we consider Soccer to
be a contact sport without the contact, not for REAL men :-))

> And our American team isn't too shabby. 2002 they made it to the
> quarterfinals,
> and I hope they've become even better!

Yes, they surprised a number of the pundits, and might do so again.
Americans do not have a faint-hearted approach to most things and I'm sure
the Soccer squad will be doing everything they can to ensure they are at
their best for this competition.

> I don't know why there is this type of perception in the US. Soccer,
> or "football" as the
> rest of the world calls it, is pretty fun to watch.


When played at the highest level it is an elegant game to watch, but I'll
deny I ever said that if any of my Rugby friends get to read this... :-)


I've been to
> several games in the UK
> and it is so much more fun than going to an American football game.
> More action,
> chanting, cursing fans, hot guys running around, what's a girl not to
> like?


LOL! You really are wicked Holly :-)

>
> But that was funny anyway.
>
> Go USA! And England too!


Not to mention Italy, Spain, and Togo... :-) (I have them in various
unavoidable sweeps...)

If anyone's looking for an outside bet, consider Iran. They take their
football very seriously, are given HUGE incentives to win, and have one of
the World's best playing for them.

Pete.


Pete Dashwood

2006-06-17, 7:55 am


"James J. Gavan" <jgavandeletethis@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:QpMig.5493$iF6.2015@pd7tw2no...
> James J. Gavan wrote:
What the Americans call shortenin' bread... :-) In deference to my heart
(not that I actually have one :-)) I stopped eating it many years back. But
I agree it is delicious, especially when made from bacon or beef dripping...
[color=darkred]
>
> 21:45 Mountain Time
>
> Done !


Excellent!

>Got Eileen off the phone' and phoned them. The wife laughed real loud when
>I said my contact was in New Zealand. We nipped round there real quick
>about 16:30. Scottish couple mid-fifties from roughly somewhere half way
>between Glasgow and Edinburgh and their son is early thirties. Modest mall,
>old (well probably built in late 50's), so not a great deal of traffic, and
>likely referrals.
>
> Not cheap but 8 slices of black pudding for $8, so we froze half.


That does sound a bit expensive, but probably isn't if it is good product.
It's great that you found it and they had some.

>The cook sent Eileen grocery shopping for missing items and meanwhile I
>prepared - black pudding, turkey style bacon, eggs, tomatoes, (gave
>mushrooms a miss) and hash browns. LUVERLY - and thanks :-)


Glad you got there :-)

>
> Turkey bacon - reconstituted turkey mix to look similar to bacon. Very
> flavourful and better than our appalling bacon.


I was introduced to this by some Jewish friends in the US. They jokingly
referred to it as 'kosher bacon'. It looked, smelled and tasted like the
real thing and apparently has far less fat. I found you CAN get it here but
you have to look in the major supermarkets.


>If you want real Canadian bacon you have to go to the States !


It is always when the local market is deprived because of export. We get
similar problems here with things like marine crayfish (rock lobster). The
prices they get in California are way above what the local market can bear.
Malaysian Airlines take the entire production of one South Island producer.
I have a number of friends who SCUBA dive regularly so I get the odd one,
but it is rare to see them in shops here. I ordered one in a restaurant
recently and the waitress who brought it (she was about 20) told me she had
never tasted it. It made me . When I was a kid they were plentiful and,
although never cheap, they were within the reach of the average family to
have occasionally. As a teenager we used to dive for them at low tide with
snorkels and cook them on the beach... Those days are long gone. Export is
everything and you can't really blame producers.


>Same with other foods; friends went to Montana and Idaho. While there the
>female partner thought she would like an Idaho potato from Idaho. SOL -
>they are all 'exported' to other US States.
>
> I might/might not do this later, but as we age my appetite is not quite
> what it used to be - Jamaican Bananas, (recipe from a very old English set
> of cards) :-
>
> Marg/Butter melted, add brown sugar then stir in a good shot of Dark Rum.
> Peel bananas, place in dish, pour sauce over and broil/grill a minute or
> two. Can serve on own or with a splash of thick cream.
>

Thanks for that. I'll try it when I am home next wend.

Pete.


Chuck Stevens

2006-06-17, 7:55 am


"James J. Gavan" <jgavandeletethis@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Xq0ig.839$L25.570@pd7tw3no...


> They're not big on the 'innards' on this side of the pond using the term
> 'Variety Meats'. About the only part of innards commonly accessible is
> liver.


Depends on where you are. In SoCal and in Texas, Menudo is considered quite
a delicacy. And depending on how far "in" you count "innards" to be, Rocky
Mountain Oysters aren't all that unobtainable, if you like that sort of
thing ...

-Chuck Stevens


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