Cobol - Re: Any comments? (Answers to Pete)

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Re: Any comments? (Answers to Pete)

Alistair

2006-04-13, 6:55 pm

docdwarf@panix.com wrote:
>
>
> Once again, from the textbooks: 'The allocation, co-ordination and
> motivation of personnel and resources towards the accomplishment of a
> stated Executive goal is the responsibility of Management.'
>

I wonder if the company is ISO 9000 certified? Under ISO 9000,
employees must be suitably trained and/or experienced for the tasks
allotted to them. Holly is neither trained nor sufficiently experienced
for her allotted tasks so, if they are ISO 9000 certified, then they
could certainly lose the certification.

> Given that definition... if a manager wishes to allocate personnel with no
> training in a particular discipline towards the accomplishment of a stated
> Executive goal requiring training in that discipline then the
> responsibility for being trained lies on... the personnel?
>
>
> Not if the company is making money off of it. If the company says 'From
> today on your job requires you to speak Swahili' then the circumstances of
> my employment changes and their previous contracts with me, both explicit
> and implicit, are null and void... or so the employment law in the USA has
> it, in a few states.

Presumably you get paid more for speaking Swahili?

2006-04-13, 6:55 pm

In article <1144944076.679486.236190@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Alistair <alistair@ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>docdwarf@panix.com wrote:
>
>I wonder if the company is ISO 9000 certified? Under ISO 9000,
>employees must be suitably trained and/or experienced for the tasks
>allotted to them. Holly is neither trained nor sufficiently experienced
>for her allotted tasks so, if they are ISO 9000 certified, then they
>could certainly lose the certification.

Hmmmmm... an interesting point but I'm not sure; there was mention made
about a subordinate and 'separate' organisation that was being set up to
deal with the project and the certification of the Parent Company might
not be jeopardised.

[snip]

>
>Presumably you get paid more for speaking Swahili?

I wonder who is doing the presuming, Mr Brazee... a few decades back I was
working as a Lowly Warehouseman for a small company that had purchased the
rights to manufacture a particular machine. The owner asked the employees
assembled in the lunch-room 'Does anyone know how to solder?'

I replied that I had been trained in such by the United States Air Force
and my instructor insured my worked matched his own standards of NASA
certification; I was told 'Oh good... then you can teach Jimmy here how to
solder so he can deal with the new machine.'

I responded with 'Oh good... then you can pay me (a sum thrice my
then-current salary) while I do so, that's what a soldering-instructor
earns'... and the owner laughed, weakly, and I never heard about it again.

DD

Howard Brazee

2006-04-13, 6:55 pm

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:34:09 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf@panix.com () wrote:

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>I wonder who is doing the presuming, Mr Brazee...

I hadn't contributed to this sub-thread yet.

My son has been trying to find a job managing a retail store. That
isn't a high paying job, but it would help his chances of being hired
greatly if he were bi-lingual.

2006-04-13, 6:55 pm

In article <1vvs325r43o5hr29ict7ke41jbl607rg0c@4ax.com>,
Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:34:09 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf@panix.com () wrote:
>
>
>I hadn't contributed to this sub-thread yet.

My error and apologies, Mr Brazee, to both you and Mr Maclean for my
mis-addressing.

DD

LX-i

2006-04-13, 6:55 pm

Howard Brazee wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:34:09 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf@panix.com () wrote:
>
>
> I hadn't contributed to this sub-thread yet.

He seems to be having trouble remember to whom he had written what...

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Howard Brazee

2006-04-14, 7:55 am

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:54:57 -0500, LX-i <lxi0007@netscape.net> wrote:

>"Who is more irrational? A man who believes in a God he doesn't see, or
>a man who's offended by a God he doesn't believe in?" - Brad Stine

I don't know. But as I've said before - I am familiar with the
first, but haven't met the second.

Closer to reality:

Who is more irrational - a man who believes in a god you don't believe
in (from some other religion)? Or a man who's offended by those who
believe in this god?

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