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OT: Traffic Signals in New Mexico
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| William M. Klein 2005-08-26, 3:55 am |
| After a "brief" Google search, I found:
http://www.state.nm.us/tax/pubs/mvd...affic%20Signals
which seems (official to me) indicating that New Mexico traffic signals are the
"same as elsewhere" in the US.
However, the unofficial site:
http://freespace.virgin.net/john.cl...ving/lights.htm
Does state,
"Occasionally the three lights can be arranged horizontally instead of
vertically. As far as I know this design is only used in New Mexico and Texas.
If the lights are arranged horizontally then red will be on the left, yellow in
the middle and green on the right."
YMMV <G>
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Bill Klein
wmklein <at> ix.netcom.com
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| William M. Klein wrote:
> After a "brief" Google search, I found:
>
> http://www.state.nm.us/tax/pubs/mvd...affic%20Signals
>
> which seems (official to me) indicating that New Mexico traffic signals are the
> "same as elsewhere" in the US.
>
> However, the unofficial site:
>
> http://freespace.virgin.net/john.cl...ving/lights.htm
>
> Does state,
>
> "Occasionally the three lights can be arranged horizontally instead of
> vertically. As far as I know this design is only used in New Mexico and Texas.
> If the lights are arranged horizontally then red will be on the left, yellow in
> the middle and green on the right."
Lots of places in Florida have them horizontally - there's more of the
signal to be attached to the pole, so its more resilient during periods
of high wind (to which Florida is particularly vulnerable).
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| Rick Smith 2005-08-26, 6:55 pm |
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"LX-i" <lxi0007@netscape.net> wrote in message
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GY.NET...
[snip]
> Lots of places in Florida have them horizontally - there's more of the
> signal to be attached to the pole, so its more resilient during periods
> of high wind (to which Florida is particularly vulnerable).
I trust this was not an oblique reference to the digestive
problems of the elderly (to which Florida is particularly
vulnerable).
While watching coverage of Hurricane Katrina, I noticed
horizontal traffic lights in Ft. Lauderdale. They did seem to
be quite steady in what might be traffic light breaking wind.
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| Donald Tees 2005-08-26, 6:55 pm |
| Rick Smith wrote:
> "LX-i" <lxi0007@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:93adb$430f032f$45491c57$10883@KNOLO
GY.NET...
> [snip]
>
>
>
> I trust this was not an oblique reference to the digestive
> problems of the elderly (to which Florida is particularly
> vulnerable).
>
> While watching coverage of Hurricane Katrina, I noticed
> horizontal traffic lights in Ft. Lauderdale. They did seem to
> be quite steady in what might be traffic light breaking wind.
>
Yes, but those lights normally hang vertically.
;< )
On the subject of colour-blindness, here is an interesting story told to
me by my father.
Apparently, during at the begining of WWII, colour blindness was
automatic grounds for a medical ban from air crew positions in the air
force.
However, as the war progressed, they discovered an interesting
phenomena. People with colour blindness tended not to notice camoflage
.... that is, they simply saw things the same as they always did. While
those with normal sight were fooled by it, those with colour blindness
were not.
This resulted in the war office going back through the medical records
and drafting all those with colour blindness into air crew to serve as
bombadiers.
I have absolutely no documentary evidence that the story is true, but as
I said, it was told to me by my dad 25 years or so ago, and he was there
at the time.
Donald
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| Russell 2005-08-26, 6:55 pm |
| Donald Tees <donald_tees@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:kmGPe.1824$Rc.518485
@news20.bellglobal.com:
> Rick Smith wrote:
periods[color=darkred]
>
> Yes, but those lights normally hang vertically.
>
> ;< )
>
> On the subject of colour-blindness, here is an interesting story told
to
> me by my father.
>
> Apparently, during at the begining of WWII, colour blindness was
> automatic grounds for a medical ban from air crew positions in the air
> force.
>
> However, as the war progressed, they discovered an interesting
> phenomena. People with colour blindness tended not to notice camoflage
> ... that is, they simply saw things the same as they always did. While
> those with normal sight were fooled by it, those with colour blindness
> were not.
>
> This resulted in the war office going back through the medical records
> and drafting all those with colour blindness into air crew to serve as
> bombadiers.
>
> I have absolutely no documentary evidence that the story is true, but
as
> I said, it was told to me by my dad 25 years or so ago, and he was
there
> at the time.
>
> Donald
>
I have heard similar stories reguarding people that have had
cataract surgery. Apparently at least some of them can see into the
ultraviolet range. The Navy would use them to help spot people on shore
that were using ultraviolet lamps to signal with. Normal people would
see almost nothing.
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| docdwarf@panix.com 2005-08-26, 6:55 pm |
| In article <Xns96BE7BE5FD6F0rws0203comcastnet@216.196.97.131>,
Russell <rws0203nospam@comcast.net> wrote:
[snip]
> I have heard similar stories reguarding people that have had
>cataract surgery.
[dialect humor alert!]
[what follows is an example of linguistic parody called 'dialect humor';
in these days of modern time some have found it to be offensive]
[continue at your own risk]
'Doctah, what long with my eyes? I have tloubre see things!'
'Mr Yamamato, you have cataracts.'
'No no, I have Rincorn Continentar!'
.... no wonder dialect humor died, aye.
DD
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| Rick Smith wrote:
> "LX-i" <lxi0007@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:93adb$430f032f$45491c57$10883@KNOLO
GY.NET...
> [snip]
>
>
> I trust this was not an oblique reference to the digestive
> problems of the elderly (to which Florida is particularly
> vulnerable).
Not intentionally... :)
> While watching coverage of Hurricane Katrina, I noticed
> horizontal traffic lights in Ft. Lauderdale. They did seem to
> be quite steady in what might be traffic light breaking wind.
Cool. I hope she stays east - I'm not really ready to take down that
trampoline again... :(
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| docdwarf@panix.com wrote:
> [dialect humor alert!]
>
> [what follows is an example of linguistic parody called 'dialect humor';
> in these days of modern time some have found it to be offensive]
>
> [continue at your own risk]
>
> 'Doctah, what long with my eyes? I have tloubre see things!'
>
> 'Mr Yamamato, you have cataracts.'
>
> 'No no, I have Rincorn Continentar!'
>
> ... no wonder dialect humor died, aye.
Not completely dead - did you see Team America World Police? (Kim Jong
Il's character is full of it - in more ways than one!)
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| Rick Smith 2005-08-27, 3:55 am |
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"LX-i" <lxi0007@netscape.net> wrote in message
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Y.NET...
> Rick Smith wrote:
[snip]
>
> Cool. I hope she stays east - I'm not really ready to take down that
> trampoline again... :(
There seems to be a good deal of uncertainty (or should
that be doubt) about the ultimate track; but at this time
the discussion is of a Cat 3 or 4 coming ashore just
southwest of your location on Monday.
I had noticed, in television interviews last year, that many
hoped the hurricanes to go elsewhere; but none who
hoped the hurricanes to dissipate. To put things into
perspective: If Katrina stays east of your location, it will
be closer to my location.
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| "LX-i" <lxi0007@netscape.net> wrote in message
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GY.NET...
> docdwarf@panix.com wrote:
>
> Not completely dead - did you see Team America World Police? (Kim Jong
> Il's character is full of it - in more ways than one!)
XXXX yeah!
You are worthress Arec Bardwin
You are worthress Arec Bardwin
You have faiwred in every way
and now my stock in you has fawren
Your career is stawrin'
and you're worthress Arec Bardwin
I heard that China was very surprised that there was such demand for Viagra
in the US until they discovered we only have elections every 4 years.
JCE
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| docdwarf@panix.com 2005-08-27, 3:55 am |
| In article <a6b29$430f8c50$45491c57$17466@KNOLOGY.NET>,
LX-i <lxi0007@netscape.net> wrote:
>docdwarf@panix.com wrote:
[snip]
>
>Not completely dead - did you see Team America World Police? (Kim Jong
>Il's character is full of it - in more ways than one!)
I tried to watch it... but about halfway through I thought 'hey! wouldn't
it be better to be doing Something Else?'... so I did.
DD
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| Clark Morris 2005-08-27, 7:55 am |
| On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 06:55:46 -0500, LX-i <lxi0007@netscape.net> wrote:
>William M. Klein wrote:
>
>Lots of places in Florida have them horizontally - there's more of the
>signal to be attached to the pole, so its more resilient during periods
>of high wind (to which Florida is particularly vulnerable).
I know that New Jersey has horizontal traffic lights matching the
above specifications in many parts of the state.
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| Rick Smith wrote:
> "LX-i" <lxi0007@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:399e$430f8b6d$45491c57$17466@KNOLOG
Y.NET...
>
>
> [snip]
>
>
>
> There seems to be a good deal of uncertainty (or should
> that be doubt) about the ultimate track; but at this time
> the discussion is of a Cat 3 or 4 coming ashore just
> southwest of your location on Monday.
Yep - once again, the center of the cone goes straight through Montgomery.
> I had noticed, in television interviews last year, that many
> hoped the hurricanes to go elsewhere; but none who
> hoped the hurricanes to dissipate. To put things into
> perspective: If Katrina stays east of your location, it will
> be closer to my location.
Heh - well, I certainly don't wish a hurricane on you (or anyone else,
for that matter). The sentiment was "I hope it goes away" -
particularly, living on base, I was hoping to avoid the overkill safety
measures they employ. (Granted, for Ivan, they weren't overkill - for
Dennis, they were *extreme* overkill.)
Dennis was the biggest non-event of the year - we had to get all our
crap put up, then when it *didn't* hit Montgomery the way they were
expecting, we had to be at work at our normal times. Nevermind that
they gave us duty time to get our grills, lawn furniture, and large
outside toys put up - but they wouldn't give us until noon or something
on Monday to put everything back outside. :(
It's a shame that they don't let enlisted folks be commanders...
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| jce wrote:
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> I heard that China was very surprised that there was such demand for Viagra
> in the US until they discovered we only have elections every 4 years.
hah! :)
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| docdwarf@panix.com wrote:
> In article <a6b29$430f8c50$45491c57$17466@KNOLOGY.NET>,
> LX-i <lxi0007@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> [snip]
>
>
>
> I tried to watch it... but about halfway through I thought 'hey! wouldn't
> it be better to be doing Something Else?'... so I did.
I was quite surprised at how much blood-and-guts can come out of a
wooden puppet - who knew!
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| docdwarf@panix.com 2005-08-27, 6:55 pm |
| In article <637fb$431086cc$45491c57$29463@KNOLOGY.NET>,
LX-i <lxi0007@netscape.net> wrote:
>docdwarf@panix.com wrote:
[snip]
[color=darkred]
>
>I was quite surprised at how much blood-and-guts can come out of a
>wooden puppet - who knew!
Those who have studied the arcane art of Special Effects, perhaps.
DD
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| Pete Dashwood 2005-08-27, 9:56 pm |
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Daniel,
I didn't realise you are in danger from Katrina.
Some of our channels here run direct feeds from the US and UK after midnight
so we get Fox and BBC. I saw some Fox coverage of it last night.
Some comments below...
"LX-i" <lxi0007@netscape.net> wrote in message
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GY.NET...
> Rick Smith wrote:
While tiresome, it is probably a better option than letting Katrina take it
down for you... :-)[color=darkred]
>
> Yep - once again, the center of the cone goes straight through Montgomery.
So, this is a fairly frequent event in Montgomery? It must be terrible for
everybody concerned.
Are the defence measures similar to those for tornadoes (get in the cellar
and hope the house is still there when it's over...)?
I saw on Fox something about a 'get clear' zone being around 5 hours. I
didn't really understand what it meant but it looked like if you didn't get
out within this time you wouldn't be able to move.
So do people simply pack up and go to another area? I could imagine huge
traffic congestion. And the disruption if you have to do this frequently
must be awful.
What do most people do to cope?
Why would people want to live in a town that is frequently hit by
hurricanes? I know you, personally, have no choice but what is the
attraction of Montgomery for the general population?
As I wrote that, I realised that here we live in a known earthquake zone
(the whole Pacific rim is pretty shaky and Wellington is built directly on a
fault line) but we still choose to be here, so maybe I answered my own
question. The fact is that, for us, the risk is considered acceptable. I
grew up in Wellington and remember a number of earthquakes, some of which
were 'serious'. As a child it is pretty exciting to be in school and see
things falling off the walls and shelves and the teacher going pale... :-)
Here in Tauranga, some years ago, we had an earthquake centred off shore
about 20 KMs which caused cracks in my concrete driveway and woke me from a
sound sleep (no mean feat :-)). But, because we have such sparse population
it is extremely rare for people to be killed or injured. (the last major
event with loss of life was in the 1930s in Napier, on the East Coast of the
North Island. I think I'd be much more reticient to live in a hurricane or
tornado zone than I would be to live here, so maybe conditioning (while
Kiwis are not blase about earthquakes, neither do we live in constant fear)
and upbringing shape how we assess these risks.
>
>
> Heh - well, I certainly don't wish a hurricane on you (or anyone else, for
> that matter). The sentiment was "I hope it goes away" - particularly,
> living on base, I was hoping to avoid the overkill safety measures they
> employ. (Granted, for Ivan, they weren't overkill - for Dennis, they were
> *extreme* overkill.)
>
> Dennis was the biggest non-event of the year - we had to get all our crap
> put up, then when it *didn't* hit Montgomery the way they were expecting,
> we had to be at work at our normal times.
That's kindof unreasonable. But then, the military are not noted for their
reasonability... :-) I bet the brass who made that decision don't live in
Montgomery...
> Nevermind that they gave us duty time to get our grills, lawn furniture,
> and large outside toys put up - but they wouldn't give us until noon or
> something on Monday to put everything back outside. :(
>
> It's a shame that they don't let enlisted folks be commanders...
>
I understand they do...it just takes a lifetime. :-)
Finally, sincere best wishes for all people reading this who may be in the
path of a hurricane or tornado.
Maybe, in time, we'll find a way to encourage these systems to dissipate.
Pete.
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| "Pete Dashwood" <dashwood@enternet.co.nz> wrote in message
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> So do people simply pack up and go to another area? I could imagine huge
> traffic congestion. And the disruption if you have to do this frequently
> must be awful.
The two major interstates out of New Orleans (which seems to be the
hurricane attractor and below sea level) are now North bound only....that
helps to reduce some of the congestion.
It's rather strange - the news here is rather subdued. I'd gotten kind of
used to the "your house will be trashed", "your life will be ruined", "look
at the death that could happen" of the last year or so. I guess as it's
heading to New Orleans the attitude is "look it's a hurricane in the gulf.
It's pretty strong and best of all it's not coming here." But even the
national weather channel is exercising restraint. It's this "calm before
the storm" that has me most worried...
A cat 4-5 storm near New Orleans could really cause major problems for that
city - I suppose that sentence is true for wherever it is that it finally
ends up.
Oh well, the temperature is 90 degrees in the gulf and Atlantic east of
Florida...we only have another 2+ months of this season left.......and we're
in better part of what has historically been a 20-30 year cycle of increased
hurricane activity - [and for the non-US Only readers] only this time with
global warming adding an unknown factor.
JCE
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| Clarification:
I guess as it's heading to New Orleans the attitude is
I should have added some detail.
I guess as it's heading to New Orleans [and that isn't where you or we are]
the attitude is
"jce" <defaultuser@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Pete Dashwood" <dashwood@enternet.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:3nchglFtkmdU1@individual.net...
> The two major interstates out of New Orleans (which seems to be the
> hurricane attractor and below sea level) are now North bound only....that
> helps to reduce some of the congestion.
>
> It's rather strange - the news here is rather subdued. I'd gotten kind of
> used to the "your house will be trashed", "your life will be ruined",
> "look at the death that could happen" of the last year or so. I guess as
> it's heading to New Orleans the attitude is "look it's a hurricane in the
> gulf. It's pretty strong and best of all it's not coming here." But even
> the national weather channel is exercising restraint. It's this "calm
> before the storm" that has me most worried...
>
> A cat 4-5 storm near New Orleans could really cause major problems for
> that city - I suppose that sentence is true for wherever it is that it
> finally ends up.
>
> Oh well, the temperature is 90 degrees in the gulf and Atlantic east of
> Florida...we only have another 2+ months of this season left.......and
> we're in better part of what has historically been a 20-30 year cycle of
> increased hurricane activity - [and for the non-US Only readers] only
> this time with global warming adding an unknown factor.
>
> JCE
>
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