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| Tim Cordsen 2005-03-22, 8:55 am |
| Hi!
I am a 32 year old German Cobol developer and I would like to work. I have
some experience on BULL DPS 9000 and some on IBM AS/400, but the most COBOL
experience I gained on IBM Mainframe by using DB2.
the last 3 years I worked at Volkswagen in Germany, but I would go anywhere
to work. Now it is half a year that I am without a job...
I am learning Java for myself, but I am far away from being a specialist in
OO-programming.
Please contact me, if you have a job or know someone who has a job and if it
is possible to work there as a German.
Thanks
Yours
Tim
tim.cordsen@arcor.de
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| www.jobdumping.de
If nothing else, it speaks volumes about the german social / economic
position.
I don't know if this works or not - I read an article on it. You sound like
you're willing to give anything a try - maybe you'll be lucky...
I wish you the best
JCE
"Tim Cordsen" <tim_cordsen@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:423ff36b$0$9210$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net...
> Hi!
>
> I am a 32 year old German Cobol developer and I would like to work. I have
> some experience on BULL DPS 9000 and some on IBM AS/400, but the most
> COBOL experience I gained on IBM Mainframe by using DB2.
> the last 3 years I worked at Volkswagen in Germany, but I would go
> anywhere to work. Now it is half a year that I am without a job...
> I am learning Java for myself, but I am far away from being a specialist
> in OO-programming.
>
> Please contact me, if you have a job or know someone who has a job and if
> it is possible to work there as a German.
>
> Thanks
>
> Yours
>
> Tim
>
> tim.cordsen@arcor.de
>
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| Pete Dashwood 2005-03-24, 3:55 am |
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"jce" <defaultuser@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5eY%d.241889$JF2.135836@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> www.jobdumping.de
>
> If nothing else, it speaks volumes about the german social / economic
> position.
>
> I don't know if this works or not - I read an article on it. You sound
like
> you're willing to give anything a try - maybe you'll be lucky...
>
As I read and speak German fairly well, I had a look through this.
It is amazing.
Basically it is people offering their services in an auction. All kinds of
occupations and skills. (A reliable babysitter for 4 Euros an hour... a
graphic designer for 60...)
Sadly there was very little IT related. Nothing involving COBOL, and there
isn't even a 'Programming' section in the audio/video/computers/electronics
section.
I am wondering now if this is the trend of the future. Will people compete
with each other in open internet forums for the continuously diminishng
stream of jobs?
Man, I really hope not.
> I wish you the best
>
Yeah, me too. Guys like Tim really deserve a better break. The  fact is
that the skills Tim (and many others) backed as being useful for their
lifetimes, weren't. The Third World wants a slice of the action (you can't
blame them) and because of the respective economies, it is almost impossible
for us to compete once they have acquired the basic skills and can do the
job.
Robert posted here recently about the cost of a good apartment, complete
with house servants in Bangalore. To us, it is ludicrous.
There is an apparently endless supply of COBOL programmers (world wide)
chasing a rapidly disappearing stream of jobs.
Many on the sub-continent are going to find their jobs drying up, just as
people in the West are. No doubt many are already extending their skill base
and will filch whatever is available.
The inevitable conclusion seems to be that technology based jobs (which were
always well paid in the West) are being outsourced to people who can afford
to do them cheaper.
We should therefore be looking at moving away from technology based jobs.
I have no idea what to recommend... service based industries are expanding.
Perhaps the new El Dorado is hotel management, or catering, or SOMETHING
that CAN'T be moved offshore... (it is unlikely the Waldorf will be moved
brick by brick to Bangalore...)
I'd be interested to hear what others here think.
Meantime, let's hope Tim finds something...there is still quite a bit of
COBOL activity in Germany.
Pete.
> JCE
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> "Tim Cordsen" <tim_cordsen@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:423ff36b$0$9210$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net...
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| Pete Dashwood 2005-03-26, 8:55 pm |
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"jce" <defaultuser@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5eY%d.241889$JF2.135836@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> www.jobdumping.de
>
> If nothing else, it speaks volumes about the german social / economic
> position.
>
> I don't know if this works or not - I read an article on it. You sound
like
> you're willing to give anything a try - maybe you'll be lucky...
>
As I read and speak German fairly well, I had a look through this.
It is amazing.
Basically it is people offering their services in an auction. All kinds of
occupations and skills. (A reliable babysitter for 4 Euros an hour... a
graphic designer for 60...)
Sadly there was very little IT related. Nothing involving COBOL, and there
isn't even a 'Programming' section in the audio/video/computers/electronics
section.
I am wondering now if this is the trend of the future. Will people compete
with each other in open internet forums for the continuously diminishng
stream of jobs?
Man, I really hope not.
> I wish you the best
>
Yeah, me too. Guys like Tim really deserve a better break. The fact is
that the skills Tim (and many others) backed as being useful for their
lifetimes, weren't. The Third World wants a slice of the action (you can't
blame them) and because of the respective economies, it is almost impossible
for us to compete once they have acquired the basic skills and can do the
job.
Robert posted here recently about the cost of a good apartment, complete
with house servants in Bangalore. To us, it is ludicrous.
There is an apparently endless supply of COBOL programmers (world wide)
chasing a rapidly disappearing stream of jobs.
Many on the sub-continent are going to find their jobs drying up, just as
people in the West are. No doubt many are already extending their skill base
and will filch whatever is available.
The inevitable conclusion seems to be that technology based jobs (which were
always well paid in the West) are being outsourced to people who can afford
to do them cheaper.
We should therefore be looking at moving away from technology based jobs.
I have no idea what to recommend... service based industries are expanding.
Perhaps the new El Dorado is hotel management, or catering, or SOMETHING
that CAN'T be moved offshore... (it is unlikely the Waldorf will be moved
brick by brick to Bangalore...)
I'd be interested to hear what others here think.
Meantime, let's hope Tim finds something...there is still quite a bit of
COBOL activity in Germany.
Pete.
> JCE
>
> "Tim Cordsen" <tim_cordsen@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:423ff36b$0$9210$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net...
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