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James J. Gavan

2005-03-13, 8:55 pm

OK Skippy,

I got it right recalling you making a reference to Gr

and Turkish. I
take it you were then still working with mainframes. Southern Cyprus
based, perhaps, you were producing applications in English and Gr

?

Just curious to know how you went about it.

What's at the back of that, sometime back I made the statement 'Setting
a constant at the beginning of an application one could invoke (go to) a
method containing literals for English or Gr

as appropriate, to
supply the text for message boxes, in a PC environment'. Those separate
methods/(paragraphs) being housed in the class that wants to initiate
the message as a result of a validation error.

Robert picked me up on that saying it should be done through look-up
tables - nothing to do with the related class/source. His suggestion is
a valid and viable way of doing it. However, I foresee problems down the
road where the look-up files/tables just grow and grow and grow, and
grow as each developer adds yet another new message, (literal). The now
perhaps defunct literals can't be guaranteed to be deleted. Yes I know
that is an 'administrative' problem - but I can see it happening.

So, any comments ?

Nearest I ever got to Cyprus was Egypt :-) Never got to save to go there
on holiday - wasn't a boozer but I think I spent my money at the NAAFI
(PX to you) - supplementing the gawdawful English cook house diet. We
had casks of the sherry Commanderea (?) and even had ouzo/zebib - Yikes !

Even more dumb - never saved to go to Italy. An RAAF wing commander
offered to get me and my friend, via 78 RAAF Wing, based in Malta, a
freebie all the way to Rome !

Jimmy

SkippyPB

2005-03-14, 8:55 pm

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 19:54:06 GMT, "James J. Gavan"
<jgavandeletethis@shaw.ca> enlightened us:

>OK Skippy,
>
>I got it right recalling you making a reference to Gr

and Turkish. I
>take it you were then still working with mainframes. Southern Cyprus
>based, perhaps, you were producing applications in English and Gr

?
>
>Just curious to know how you went about it.
>

No I was living in Nicosia which is a little in the North away from
Larnica and Pathos and all of the beach resorts.

Indeed I was doing mainframe programming but it was only to interface
the client's ATM system and Teller system into my employer's suite of
software. We did not translate anything to Gr

. With Cyprus having
once been a British colony, English was very common especially in
business, so they never asked for putting everything into Gr

. At
that time, I don't think we could have done it any way. They were on
a VSE machine! Now, it would be possible becuase they are on MVS and
our software now has that capability.

I did do something like what you are describing with Thai when I lived
in Bangkok.

>What's at the back of that, sometime back I made the statement 'Setting
>a constant at the beginning of an application one could invoke (go to) a
>method containing literals for English or Gr

as appropriate, to
>supply the text for message boxes, in a PC environment'. Those separate
>methods/(paragraphs) being housed in the class that wants to initiate
>the message as a result of a validation error.
>
>Robert picked me up on that saying it should be done through look-up
>tables - nothing to do with the related class/source. His suggestion is
>a valid and viable way of doing it. However, I foresee problems down the
>road where the look-up files/tables just grow and grow and grow, and
>grow as each developer adds yet another new message, (literal). The now
>perhaps defunct literals can't be guaranteed to be deleted. Yes I know
>that is an 'administrative' problem - but I can see it happening.
>
>So, any comments ?
>

We do it with copybooks and replace all of the maps for the online
stuff.

>Nearest I ever got to Cyprus was Egypt :-) Never got to save to go there
>on holiday - wasn't a boozer but I think I spent my money at the NAAFI
>(PX to you) - supplementing the gawdawful English cook house diet. We
>had casks of the sherry Commanderea (?) and even had ouzo/zebib - Yikes !
>
>Even more dumb - never saved to go to Italy. An RAAF wing commander
>offered to get me and my friend, via 78 RAAF Wing, based in Malta, a
>freebie all the way to Rome !
>
>Jimmy

regards,

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James J. Gavan

2005-03-14, 8:55 pm

SkippyPB wrote:
>
> We do it with copybooks and replace all of the maps for the online
> stuff.

Thanks Skippy. Having pissed off that Spaniard, mainframe-wise I now
know what you are talking about when you use the word 'maps'.

Jimmy

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