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| Harrie_Nak 2005-02-19, 8:55 pm |
| Hi,
I am a newbe with Cobol. I want to learn more about programming in Cobol,
but I hear people say that my compiler will not work on my hp9000 with hp-ux
11.
Is this correct, and if so, is there an affordable solution for this
problem?
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks
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| Richard 2005-02-19, 8:55 pm |
| > I hear people say that my compiler will not work on my hp9000 with
hp-ux 11. Is this correct,
As you haven't said what 'my compiler' is then it is not possible to
say whether it is correct or not. Is it one that you wrote ? or one
that you run on a PC ?
The HP9000 is not an Intel PC. HPUX 11 is not Windows. If 'my
compiler' is not specifically for HP9000 and HPUX 11 then, no, it won't
work.
> and if so, is there an affordable solution for this problem?
Probably not. You could try to get OpenCobol or TinyCobol compiled to
run on HPUX, but it may take a lot of work.
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| Harrie_Nak 2005-02-19, 8:55 pm |
| The compiler I have is a copy from another machine. The problem I will get
with this (so I am told) with the license file and/or the machine ID.
"Richard" <riplin@Azonic.co.nz> wrote in message
news:1108850815.465894.163130@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> hp-ux 11. Is this correct,
>
> As you haven't said what 'my compiler' is then it is not possible to
> say whether it is correct or not. Is it one that you wrote ? or one
> that you run on a PC ?
>
> The HP9000 is not an Intel PC. HPUX 11 is not Windows. If 'my
> compiler' is not specifically for HP9000 and HPUX 11 then, no, it won't
> work.
>
>
> Probably not. You could try to get OpenCobol or TinyCobol compiled to
> run on HPUX, but it may take a lot of work.
>
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| Richard 2005-02-19, 8:55 pm |
| > The compiler I have is a copy from another machine.
Do we have to assume that the 'another machine' is not an AS/400 or SGI
or Sun or ??
> The problem I will get with this (so I am told) with the license
> file and/or the machine ID.
So it is not just 'from another machine', it is _stolen_ from another
machine.
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| Harrie_Nak 2005-02-21, 3:55 pm |
| I thought there must be a way for test and training purposes?
"Richard" <riplin@Azonic.co.nz> wrote in message
news:1108853668.498646.12460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
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> Do we have to assume that the 'another machine' is not an AS/400 or SGI
> or Sun or ??
>
>
> So it is not just 'from another machine', it is _stolen_ from another
> machine.
>
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| docdwarf@panix.com 2005-02-21, 3:55 pm |
| In article <4788e$421a2002$3e3baf90$13172@news.versatel.nl>,
Harrie_Nak <harrie@nak.nl> wrote:
>I thought there must be a way for test and training purposes?
There might be, at that. What prevents you from asking your local HP
representative about this?
DD
>"Richard" <riplin@Azonic.co.nz> wrote in message
>news:1108853668.498646.12460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
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| Harrie_Nak 2005-02-21, 8:55 pm |
| Thanks guys,
Is this newsgroup only visited by J Edgar Hoover wannabees?
<docdwarf@panix.com> wrote in message news:cvd87n$a8k$1@panix5.panix.com...
> In article <4788e$421a2002$3e3baf90$13172@news.versatel.nl>,
> Harrie_Nak <harrie@nak.nl> wrote:
>
> There might be, at that. What prevents you from asking your local HP
> representative about this?
>
> DD
>
>
>
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| docdwarf@panix.com 2005-02-21, 8:55 pm |
| In article <d5d66$421a541f$3e3baf90$23724@news.versatel.nl>,
Harrie_Nak <harrie@nak.nl> wrote:
>Thanks guys,
>Is this newsgroup only visited by J Edgar Hoover wannabees?
You're quite welcome... and no, in my experience it is not. Second
request, then: what prevents you from asking your locak HP representative
about this?
DD
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><docdwarf@panix.com> wrote in message news:cvd87n$a8k$1@panix5.panix.com...
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| William M. Klein 2005-02-21, 8:55 pm |
| Serious response to a semi-humorous question.
This newsgroup includes (but is not limited to) a number of people who make
their LIVINGS (directly or indirectly) from the sale of software and/or the
development of software.
Therefore, when someone posts to the newsgroup asking for a solution REQUIRING
the theft of software (intellectual property) this usually (often) gets a pretty
cold response.
--
Bill Klein
wmklein <at> ix.netcom.com
"Harrie_Nak" <harrie@nak.nl> wrote in message
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> Thanks guys,
> Is this newsgroup only visited by J Edgar Hoover wannabees?
>
>
>
> <docdwarf@panix.com> wrote in message news:cvd87n$a8k$1@panix5.panix.com...
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| Richard 2005-02-21, 8:55 pm |
| > Is this newsgroup only visited by J Edgar Hoover wannabees?
I doubt that anyone here wants to be a dead racist of dubious sexual
orientation.
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| James J. Gavan 2005-02-21, 8:55 pm |
| Harrie_Nak wrote:
> Thanks guys,
> Is this newsgroup only visited by J Edgar Hoover wannabees?
No. He was a cross-dresser.
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| docdwarf@panix.com 2005-02-21, 8:55 pm |
| In article <1109024869.819062.119740@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
Richard <riplin@Azonic.co.nz> wrote:
>
>I doubt that anyone here wants to be a dead racist of dubious sexual
>orientation.
Hey, don't knock it until you've tried it!
DD
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| Richard 2005-02-22, 3:55 am |
| >>I doubt that anyone here wants to be a dead racist of dubious sexual
[color=darkred]
> Hey, don't knock it until you've tried it!
What makes you think I haven't ? except the 'dead' bit of course.
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| docdwarf@panix.com 2005-02-22, 3:55 am |
| In article <1109033441.898839.23540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
Richard <riplin@Azonic.co.nz> wrote:
>
>
>What makes you think I haven't ? except the 'dead' bit of course.
Oh, *I* see... picking and choosing only that which suits you.
DD
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| Donald Tees 2005-02-22, 3:55 am |
| Harrie_Nak wrote:[color=darkred]
> Thanks guys,
> Is this newsgroup only visited by J Edgar Hoover wannabees?
>
>
>
> <docdwarf@panix.com> wrote in message news:cvd87n$a8k$1@panix5.panix.com...
>
There are a few dope smoking old hippies as well.
Donald
;< )
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| Donald Tees 2005-02-22, 3:55 am |
| James J. Gavan wrote:
> Harrie_Nak wrote:
>
>
>
> No. He was a cross-dresser.
I thought he sucked.
Donald
;< )
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| Harrie_Nak 2005-02-22, 8:55 pm |
| Thanks, at least someone with a normal answer to a normal question.
I don't think it is strange or even criminal to try some things at home
without any intention to break any laws.
I don't think that I am the only living person on this planet with this
idea.
I mean I do the same thing with for example Oracle (free downloadable for
test and training purposes). I don't see any differences in using Cobol.
(Except of course in the way it is distributed etc., so no remarks on this
issue pls). Eventualy my 'experiments' can, and probably will, lead to
selling more licenses. If this is not possible I will look for alternatives.
In that case everyone will loose both HP and Micro Focus.
<docdwarf@panix.com> wrote in message news:cvd87n$a8k$1@panix5.panix.com...
> In article <4788e$421a2002$3e3baf90$13172@news.versatel.nl>,
> Harrie_Nak <harrie@nak.nl> wrote:
>
> There might be, at that. What prevents you from asking your local HP
> representative about this?
>
> DD
>
>
>
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| Richard 2005-02-22, 8:55 pm |
| > I don't think it is strange or even criminal to try some things at
home
> without any intention to break any laws.
In many cases it _is_ criminal, and the user may well be intending to
break laws.
> I don't think that I am the only living person on this planet with
this idea.
Some think that they should be able to rob banks or liquor stores.
Some think it not strange to scam money off old people.
> I mean I do the same thing with for example Oracle.
If they offer a free version then that is fine. It seemed that you
didn't want to ask HP because you _knew_ that 'your compiler' was not
legitimate. You didn't want to say which compiler it was because you
knew you would be told it was stealing. You _intended_ to steal
software.
> Eventualy my 'experiments' can, and probably will, lead to
> selling more licenses.
Or, if you can break the licensing scheme, to more copies being stolen.
> In that case everyone will loose both HP and Micro Focus.
After several attempts at finding out what your 'my compiler' is you
finally reveal that it may be MicroFocus.
Perhaps you don't know that there are several different brands of
compilers. Perhaps you are unaware that each will have their own
mechanisms. You asked for help and did not provide sufficient
information for us to supply any.
If you contact MF you may find they offer academic and student
editions.
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| Harrie_Nak 2005-02-22, 8:55 pm |
|
"Richard" <riplin@Azonic.co.nz> wrote in message
news:1109103271.669636.67200@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> home
>
> In many cases it _is_ criminal, and the user may well be intending to
> break laws.
>
and in many cases it is not. How I see it as long as one does not have ANY
intention of exploiting it comercially, there is not one law broken.
> this idea.
>
> Some think that they should be able to rob banks or liquor stores.
> Some think it not strange to scam money off old people.
Some think they can better write nonsense replies to newsgroups than
enjoying there lives in a more usefull way. Unless they think they can save
the world with this kind of remarks.
>
>
> If they offer a free version then that is fine. It seemed that you
> didn't want to ask HP because you _knew_ that 'your compiler' was not
> legitimate. You didn't want to say which compiler it was because you
> knew you would be told it was stealing. You _intended_ to steal
> software.
I never 'said' that I did not want to ask HP and I never said I didn't want
to say which compiler. Only people with a criminal or paranoia mind could
have thought that my intention was to steal something or in other ways do
something illegal.
>
>
> Or, if you can break the licensing scheme, to more copies being stolen.
With a test and training license?????
>
>
> After several attempts at finding out what your 'my compiler' is you
> finally reveal that it may be MicroFocus.
I don't "finally reveal", but I just mentioned it, but that is my lack of
knowledge, sorry.
>
> Perhaps you don't know that there are several different brands of
> compilers. Perhaps you are unaware that each will have their own
> mechanisms. You asked for help and did not provide sufficient
> information for us to supply any.
>
> If you contact MF you may find they offer academic and student
> editions.
Hey, you really can give answers like a real human being! Thank you for
that!
Finally the advice I needed. Thank you, maybe you are not so bad as I
thought you were. There is still hope, even for you!
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| docdwarf@panix.com 2005-02-23, 3:55 am |
| In article <7498c$421b8ead$3e3baf90$10603@news.versatel.nl>,
Harrie_Nak <harrie@nak.nl> wrote:
>Thanks, at least someone with a normal answer to a normal question.
You're quite welcome... but I noticed that you didn't say what there is
that prevents you from contacting your local HP representative about this.
>I don't think it is strange or even criminal to try some things at home
>without any intention to break any laws.
What you think just might, possibly, be different than what others think,
especially when it comes to matters of law... those law-folks can be
*very* subtle.
>I don't think that I am the only living person on this planet with this
>idea.
You have the same ideas as other people? How... unoriginal.
>I mean I do the same thing with for example Oracle (free downloadable for
>test and training purposes). I don't see any differences in using Cobol.
What you see just might, possibly, be different than what others see.
>(Except of course in the way it is distributed etc., so no remarks on this
>issue pls). Eventualy my 'experiments' can, and probably will, lead to
>selling more licenses. If this is not possible I will look for alternatives.
>In that case everyone will loose both HP and Micro Focus.
Ummmm... I'm not sure I understood you here. I asked 'prevents you from
asking your local HP representative about this?' and I don't see where you
answered that.
DD
><docdwarf@panix.com> wrote in message news:cvd87n$a8k$1@panix5.panix.com...
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| Robert Wagner 2005-02-23, 3:55 am |
| On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:57:33 +0100, "Harrie_Nak" <harrie@nak.nl>
wrote:
>Thanks, at least someone with a normal answer to a normal question.
>I don't think it is strange or even criminal to try some things at home
>without any intention to break any laws.
>I don't think that I am the only living person on this planet with this
>idea.
>I mean I do the same thing with for example Oracle (free downloadable for
>test and training purposes). I don't see any differences in using Cobol.
>(Except of course in the way it is distributed etc., so no remarks on this
>issue pls). Eventualy my 'experiments' can, and probably will, lead to
>selling more licenses. If this is not possible I will look for alternatives.
>In that case everyone will loose both HP and Micro Focus.
Industry secret: most every contractor can get free 90-day trials of
compilers and databases by calling the marketing department, asking,
and establishing his bona fides. They think the same way you do: it
might lead to a sale.
><docdwarf@panix.com> wrote in message news:cvd87n$a8k$1@panix5.panix.com...
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| Harrie_Nak 2005-02-24, 3:55 pm |
| I thought there must be a way for test and training purposes?
"Richard" <riplin@Azonic.co.nz> wrote in message
news:1108853668.498646.12460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
> Do we have to assume that the 'another machine' is not an AS/400 or SGI
> or Sun or ??
>
>
> So it is not just 'from another machine', it is _stolen_ from another
> machine.
>
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